Microsoft I'd expect this from but what the heck was Canonical thinking??
Probably something along the lines of "Hello, I like money."
“I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”
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Re: “I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well I think we all know why. They make money from it. The question that’s more relevant is how many of you are going to cancel your Azure accounts and move to a different host after seeing this and will it lose MS enough money to stop the practice. I’m taking bets that not enough will at 50:1 odds.
Do you really think Ubuntu doesn't already have similar agreements with other cloud providers...? Azure is a big fish. If they managed to get that, they definitely got smaller ones.
Then time to move off Ubuntu? I’ve been a big fan of it for a long time but it seems my servers will be moving to a BSD sooner rather than later.
Re: “I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”
#23The register article on this https://www.theregister.com/2021/02/11/microsoft_azure_ubunt... has responses from Canonical and MS, which shed a bit more light on the situation. The Canonical quote is the most illuminating :- "As per the Azure T&Cs, Microsoft shares with Canonical, the publisher of Ubuntu, the contact details of developers launching Ubuntu instances on Azure. These contact details are held in Canonical…
Great, so their conclusion is "we should make this less obvious and creepy", not "we should probably stop doing this".
That's marketing
Re: “I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”
#24The register article on this https://www.theregister.com/2021/02/11/microsoft_azure_ubunt... has responses from Canonical and MS, which shed a bit more light on the situation. The Canonical quote is the most illuminating :- "As per the Azure T&Cs, Microsoft shares with Canonical, the publisher of Ubuntu, the contact details of developers launching Ubuntu instances on Azure. These contact details are held in Canonical…
I think the Marketplace quote is worth noting too: >A look at the terms for the Azure Marketplace throws up this sentence: "If you purchase or use a Marketplace Offering, we may share with the Publisher of such Offering your contact information and details about the transaction and your usage." So the publisher of something on their Marketplace gets some information. This doesn't seem 'that' weird (well the linked in…
This is the real answer. I almost did the same thing but decided to spin up my own image instead of buying a prepacked one from the Marketplace.
Re: “I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”
#25The register article on this https://www.theregister.com/2021/02/11/microsoft_azure_ubunt... has responses from Canonical and MS, which shed a bit more light on the situation. The Canonical quote is the most illuminating :- "As per the Azure T&Cs, Microsoft shares with Canonical, the publisher of Ubuntu, the contact details of developers launching Ubuntu instances on Azure. These contact details are held in Canonical…
I think the Marketplace quote is worth noting too: >A look at the terms for the Azure Marketplace throws up this sentence: "If you purchase or use a Marketplace Offering, we may share with the Publisher of such Offering your contact information and details about the transaction and your usage." So the publisher of something on their Marketplace gets some information. This doesn't seem 'that' weird (well the linked in…
You buy a dishwasher from Best Buy. They send your name and address to Maytag. You buy soap from Walmart. They send your name and address to Johnson & Johnson. You buy a sandwich at your local deli. They send your name and address to Boar’s Head. Cool?
Re: “I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”
#26interesting to me that the TOS part of this discussion is being prosecuted via screenshots. Most legal disputes online presumably have an element of proving a clickwrap paper trail -- I wonder if there's demand for better tools for capturing what prompts were shown?
Re: “I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”
#27Is it Azure sharing data, or the Ubuntu images phoning home? Edit: a comment here links to an article with more details. MS shares with Canonical. Bad on both parts I'd say, at least weird usage of the data.
Not if you purchase something from Canonical on MS's Marketplace. That's what marketplaces do.
Re: “I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”
#28apt-get --purge remove clippy
Re: “I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”
#29The register article on this https://www.theregister.com/2021/02/11/microsoft_azure_ubunt... has responses from Canonical and MS, which shed a bit more light on the situation. The Canonical quote is the most illuminating :- "As per the Azure T&Cs, Microsoft shares with Canonical, the publisher of Ubuntu, the contact details of developers launching Ubuntu instances on Azure. These contact details are held in Canonical…
I think the Marketplace quote is worth noting too: >A look at the terms for the Azure Marketplace throws up this sentence: "If you purchase or use a Marketplace Offering, we may share with the Publisher of such Offering your contact information and details about the transaction and your usage." So the publisher of something on their Marketplace gets some information. This doesn't seem 'that' weird (well the linked in…
AWS has the same. If you treat it as an actual marketplace with individual images uploaded and licensed by their IP owners and not as “images of popular distros hosted by Microsoft” then it really does make sense. They’re not resellers, they’re just facilitating the marketplace.
Re: “I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”
#30Early in my career, I worked for a tiny company that exclusively built plug-ins for a specific SAAS platform. I noticed there was a public-facing page where one could search for any customer of this SAAS platform, so I built a scraper that would auto-search names, main URLs, and ticker symbols for every company on the S&P 500 into this search. I demoed it with 5 companies to a member of the sales team, and he politel…
>He said it was nearly impossible to build a lead out of that kind of information, and that any shop that would try and use that kind of poisoned fruit would quickly tarnish their reputation.
I think one of the caveats to that is good sales folks probably would do exactly as you describe. But there's always good sales folks who are making sales, and then the desperate ones who have nothing but time on their hands to try other things simply because they have time on their hands or are desperate.
There are always starving dogs out there.