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Re: “I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”

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All I see is, "JavaScript is not available."

You should probably enable JavaScript. Sounds like you broke your browser and half the web with it :)

Or maybe he has a good reason to keep it turned off. Like avoiding giving people like spammers, scammers, marketers and websites that hire incompetent web developers attention they do not deserve.

Re: “I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”

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The register article on this https://www.theregister.com/2021/02/11/microsoft_azure_ubunt... has responses from Canonical and MS, which shed a bit more light on the situation. The Canonical quote is the most illuminating :- "As per the Azure T&Cs, Microsoft shares with Canonical, the publisher of Ubuntu, the contact details of developers launching Ubuntu instances on Azure. These contact details are held in Canonical…

Wow. I just lost a whole lot of respect for Canonical. “If you read the document we expect nobody to read, you’d know that you sold your soul to us. We didn’t mean for you to find that out but one of our salespeople got overeager and tried to sell you your soul back. He will be reprimanded. Can we all forget about this real quick?”

Re: “I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”

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post #8

The register article on this https://www.theregister.com/2021/02/11/microsoft_azure_ubunt... has responses from Canonical and MS, which shed a bit more light on the situation. The Canonical quote is the most illuminating :- "As per the Azure T&Cs, Microsoft shares with Canonical, the publisher of Ubuntu, the contact details of developers launching Ubuntu instances on Azure. These contact details are held in Canonical…

Great, so their conclusion is "we should make this less obvious and creepy", not "we should probably stop doing this".

Re: “I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”

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post #8

The register article on this https://www.theregister.com/2021/02/11/microsoft_azure_ubunt... has responses from Canonical and MS, which shed a bit more light on the situation. The Canonical quote is the most illuminating :- "As per the Azure T&Cs, Microsoft shares with Canonical, the publisher of Ubuntu, the contact details of developers launching Ubuntu instances on Azure. These contact details are held in Canonical…

"oops, our dirty secret is out. But we won't do it again, guv!"

Re: “I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”

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post #8

The register article on this https://www.theregister.com/2021/02/11/microsoft_azure_ubunt... has responses from Canonical and MS, which shed a bit more light on the situation. The Canonical quote is the most illuminating :- "As per the Azure T&Cs, Microsoft shares with Canonical, the publisher of Ubuntu, the contact details of developers launching Ubuntu instances on Azure. These contact details are held in Canonical…

I think the Marketplace quote is worth noting too:

>A look at the terms for the Azure Marketplace throws up this sentence: "If you purchase or use a Marketplace Offering, we may share with the Publisher of such Offering your contact information and details about the transaction and your usage."

So the publisher of something on their Marketplace gets some information.

This doesn't seem 'that' weird (well the linked in contact does) as it seems semi related to ... say apps and app stores and etc.

Edit: I'm not justifying the policy, but I am noting that on a marketplace with third parties, this seems pretty standard / something you should always consider when you install something from a third party.

Re: “I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”

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I thought this was going to be a Clippy joke, but the truth was much more disturbing. Why is Microsoft sharing this level of information (from a corporate account) with third parties?

Well I think we all know why. They make money from it. The question that’s more relevant is how many of you are going to cancel your Azure accounts and move to a different host after seeing this and will it lose MS enough money to stop the practice. I’m taking bets that not enough will at 50:1 odds.

Do you really think Ubuntu doesn't already have similar agreements with other cloud providers...?

Azure is a big fish. If they managed to get that, they definitely got smaller ones.

Re: “I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should probably enable JavaScript. Sounds like you broke your browser and half the web with it :)

Or maybe he has a good reason to keep it turned off. Like avoiding giving people like spammers, scammers, marketers and websites that hire incompetent web developers attention they do not deserve.

Right. But then stop complaining about it every chance you get. It’s the equivalent of taking the steering wheel out of your car so if you get in an accident you don’t hit your head on it, then complaining that streets have turns. For better or worse, the web now requires JS to function unless you restrict yourself to some very specific communities. If that’s the case and you want to do that, good for you. But every HN thread seems to have a complainer about not being able to use a service that’s built on top of JS.

Re: “I saw that you spun up an Ubuntu image in Azure”

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Early in my career, I worked for a tiny company that exclusively built plug-ins for a specific SAAS platform. I noticed there was a public-facing page where one could search for any customer of this SAAS platform, so I built a scraper that would auto-search names, main URLs, and ticker symbols for every company on the S&P 500 into this search.

I demoed it with 5 companies to a member of the sales team, and he politely asked me to remove the script from the company laptop, and seemed to be annoyed at my script kiddie antics. He said it was nearly impossible to build a lead out of that kind of information, and that any shop that would try and use that kind of poisoned fruit would quickly tarnish their reputation.

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