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Re: Twitter permanently bans Project Veritas account

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The deafening silence in these comments is telling of how boned free speech proper actually is. Hope you all are enjoying the "free speech for me, but not for thee" attitude of this neo-feudalism that we live in.

We don’t let the democratically elected government ban speech but unaccountable private corporations are free to censor.

These problems aren’t easy, and while I’ve lessened my free speech absolutism a tiny bit, I’m still quite concerned. We have to find a better way.

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I can't wait until social norms change again down the road, and the right uses this newfound power of consorship and control to dominate. I mean, it'll suck, no doubt. But it'll also be just desserts for the destroyers of freedom.

You mean it’s now a right-wing idea that private companies aren’t allowed to decide who they want to do business with? This isn’t really a right vs. left issue: it’s not like they lost their account for tweeting about lowering the capital gains tax rate or something. This is an organization which weaponized bad faith attacks. The only reason it seems politicized now is that there isn’t broad support for that kind of…

Unorthodox journalist tactics or not, they catch the elite saying horrible things on camera when they think they are speaking amongst friends.

Yes they do go against the left a lot in who they go after. But you can’t argue against the video footage. I consider myself on the left on many things but what they capture people saying is absolute appalling. Why focus on their tactics instead of what they uncover?

Re: Twitter permanently bans Project Veritas account

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're doing exactly the same type of yellow journalism that the NYT and CNN is doing, just with a bend you happen to not agree with. Nothing far-right about that.

And that makes it ok? Do you happen to know for sure that OP is accepting of the things that the New York Times and CNN do as well?

Either you have free press and open platforms, or you don't.

Re: Twitter permanently bans Project Veritas account

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How long before hard hitting independent journalists like Greenwald and others who publish regardless of who it exposes and inconveniences start seeing their voices silenced and only approved voices get to tiptoe and publish banalities along with special daggers for non conformers?

Twitter needs to be renamed Pravda unironically.

Re: Twitter permanently bans Project Veritas account

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post #6

The deafening silence in these comments is telling of how boned free speech proper actually is. Hope you all are enjoying the "free speech for me, but not for thee" attitude of this neo-feudalism that we live in.

We don’t let the democratically elected government ban speech but unaccountable private corporations are free to censor. These problems aren’t easy, and while I’ve lessened my free speech absolutism a tiny bit, I’m still quite concerned. We have to find a better way.

Considering the media propping up stories about how free speech is unnecessary and barbaric in our new and modern society, and making censorship a cultural norm - giving an inch is more than giving a mile.

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post #15

How long before hard hitting independent journalists like Greenwald and others who publish regardless of who it exposes and inconveniences start seeing their voices silenced and only approved voices get to tiptoe and publish banalities along with special daggers for non conformers? Twitter needs to be renamed Pravda unironically.

Greenwald's already been booted out of his own media org that he founded. Private corporations & all that.

Re: Twitter permanently bans Project Veritas account

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post #15

How long before hard hitting independent journalists like Greenwald and others who publish regardless of who it exposes and inconveniences start seeing their voices silenced and only approved voices get to tiptoe and publish banalities along with special daggers for non conformers? Twitter needs to be renamed Pravda unironically.

Greenwald's already been booted out of his own media org that he founded. Private corporations & all that.

He resigned after they refused to run one of his articles as written. I think this is an important distinction because other journalists have been fired for their speech, but he wasn't one of them.

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post #7
post #3

I can't wait until social norms change again down the road, and the right uses this newfound power of consorship and control to dominate. I mean, it'll suck, no doubt. But it'll also be just desserts for the destroyers of freedom.

You mean it’s now a right-wing idea that private companies aren’t allowed to decide who they want to do business with? This isn’t really a right vs. left issue: it’s not like they lost their account for tweeting about lowering the capital gains tax rate or something. This is an organization which weaponized bad faith attacks. The only reason it seems politicized now is that there isn’t broad support for that kind of…

>You mean it’s now a right-wing idea that private companies aren’t allowed to decide who they want to do business with?

What's legally allowed is very different than ethical and in good taste.

The idea that the line for what it legal and the line for what is moral/acceptable should be anywhere near each other is one of the big issues people have with the authoritarian left (and the authoritarian right, but I don't think they're a big threat at present, their push for moralizing policy seems to have mostly faded out in the early 2010s, though we still need to be vigilant).

Re: Twitter permanently bans Project Veritas account

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The deafening silence in these comments is telling of how boned free speech proper actually is. Hope you all are enjoying the "free speech for me, but not for thee" attitude of this neo-feudalism that we live in.

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