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“Genocide” is the wrong word for the horrors of Xinjiang

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Re: “Genocide” is the wrong word for the horrors of Xinjiang

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No, it isn't.

From the article:

> It has forcibly sterilised some Uyghur women. But it is not slaughtering them.

Not slaughtering them makes no difference to whether it's genocide.

Genocide is about "intent to destroy in whole or in part a national, ethnic, racial or religious group".

Sterilizing them counts. As would snatching the children of that group and placing them in families of your own group (to give an example where nobody dies, not even the unborn).

Re: “Genocide” is the wrong word for the horrors of Xinjiang

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No, it isn't. From the article: > It has forcibly sterilised some Uyghur women. But it is not slaughtering them. Not slaughtering them makes no difference to whether it's genocide. Genocide is about "intent to destroy in whole or in part a national, ethnic, racial or religious group". Sterilizing them counts. As would snatching the children of that group and placing them in families of your own group (to give an exam…

Not saying that you're wrong -- would you include the US eugenics programs [1] or the Australian forced adoptions [2] in that?

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics_in_the_United_States

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Generations

Re: “Genocide” is the wrong word for the horrors of Xinjiang

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No, it isn't. From the article: > It has forcibly sterilised some Uyghur women. But it is not slaughtering them. Not slaughtering them makes no difference to whether it's genocide. Genocide is about "intent to destroy in whole or in part a national, ethnic, racial or religious group". Sterilizing them counts. As would snatching the children of that group and placing them in families of your own group (to give an exam…

Not saying that you're wrong -- would you include the US eugenics programs [1] or the Australian forced adoptions [2] in that? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics_in_the_United_States [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Generations

Undoubtedly, yes.

Re: “Genocide” is the wrong word for the horrors of Xinjiang

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No, it isn't. From the article: > It has forcibly sterilised some Uyghur women. But it is not slaughtering them. Not slaughtering them makes no difference to whether it's genocide. Genocide is about "intent to destroy in whole or in part a national, ethnic, racial or religious group". Sterilizing them counts. As would snatching the children of that group and placing them in families of your own group (to give an exam…

Not saying that you're wrong -- would you include the US eugenics programs [1] or the Australian forced adoptions [2] in that? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics_in_the_United_States [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Generations

Can you bring contemporary examples, not things that happened decades before many of the posters here were even alive?

Re: “Genocide” is the wrong word for the horrors of Xinjiang

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No, it isn't. From the article: > It has forcibly sterilised some Uyghur women. But it is not slaughtering them. Not slaughtering them makes no difference to whether it's genocide. Genocide is about "intent to destroy in whole or in part a national, ethnic, racial or religious group". Sterilizing them counts. As would snatching the children of that group and placing them in families of your own group (to give an exam…

Not saying that you're wrong -- would you include the US eugenics programs [1] or the Australian forced adoptions [2] in that? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics_in_the_United_States [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Generations

Yes. Same for the residential schools in Canada my grandmother attended

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Indian_residential_sc...

Re: “Genocide” is the wrong word for the horrors of Xinjiang

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No, it isn't. From the article: > It has forcibly sterilised some Uyghur women. But it is not slaughtering them. Not slaughtering them makes no difference to whether it's genocide. Genocide is about "intent to destroy in whole or in part a national, ethnic, racial or religious group". Sterilizing them counts. As would snatching the children of that group and placing them in families of your own group (to give an exam…

Not saying that you're wrong -- would you include the US eugenics programs [1] or the Australian forced adoptions [2] in that? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics_in_the_United_States [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Generations

Obviously.

Re: “Genocide” is the wrong word for the horrors of Xinjiang

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No, it isn't. From the article: > It has forcibly sterilised some Uyghur women. But it is not slaughtering them. Not slaughtering them makes no difference to whether it's genocide. Genocide is about "intent to destroy in whole or in part a national, ethnic, racial or religious group". Sterilizing them counts. As would snatching the children of that group and placing them in families of your own group (to give an exam…

Not saying that you're wrong -- would you include the US eugenics programs [1] or the Australian forced adoptions [2] in that? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics_in_the_United_States [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Generations

Definitely, yes.

Re: “Genocide” is the wrong word for the horrors of Xinjiang

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not saying that you're wrong -- would you include the US eugenics programs [1] or the Australian forced adoptions [2] in that? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics_in_the_United_States [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Generations

Can you bring contemporary examples, not things that happened decades before many of the posters here were even alive?

My question was not a rhetorical device, it was a question -- I'm genuinely interested in the answer.
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