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Re: Leaving Mozilla

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Post by leereeves » Thu, Feb 11, 2021, 9:30 PM UTC

> I first joined Mozilla as an intern during my change-career journey mainly because I had taken one Android class, knew some Java, and applied on a whim at the right time to hit the recruiter’s inbox.

Is it that easy to become an intern at Mozilla?

Re: Leaving Mozilla

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Post by legerdemain » Thu, Feb 11, 2021, 9:31 PM UTC

gabereiser wrote: post #10

> ...but the release just felt like a blip in our planned schedule before jumping into more sprints and fires and thinking about the next iteration. Welcome to agile ? I know the feeling, honestly, but in software engineering there's always more bugs to fix, more features to develop, more needs of the users that require your attention. Cutting a release should feel like letting go, and indeed at places it does, but u…

To put it bluntly: we don't need more context. The author has graciously shared a story about her private decision-making and intimate details about her emotional well-being. Even if some readers may want to probe further into her private life, she ultimately owes us nothing. We are reading her blog post out of passing curiosity, and not assessing the merit or evaluating the truth of any claims she is making.

Sorry to single out the parent comment. I don't know what the true intent was, but there's a trend on HN of commenters demanding to know private details they don't have an actual need to know. It's nice when the author answers questions but we should be happy with what we're given.

Re: Leaving Mozilla

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Post by gm » Thu, Feb 11, 2021, 9:31 PM UTC

gabereiser wrote: post #10

> ...but the release just felt like a blip in our planned schedule before jumping into more sprints and fires and thinking about the next iteration. Welcome to agile ? I know the feeling, honestly, but in software engineering there's always more bugs to fix, more features to develop, more needs of the users that require your attention. Cutting a release should feel like letting go, and indeed at places it does, but u…

LOL, why would "we" need more context? It's her own experience, she's making her own choices, and she's telling her story. If she feels she was harassed, then she was harassed. She's not suing people, she's not shaming anyone in particular. That's really the end of it.

I'd not have the gall to demand evidence and pass judgement on the life experience of others.

This person owes us nothing, and if anything, we should thank her for sharing her story, and no more.

Re: Leaving Mozilla

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Post by jakub_g » Thu, Feb 11, 2021, 9:32 PM UTC

ppf wrote: post #29

systemvoltage wrote: post #6

I still use Firefox. I’m sticking around. It’s becoming more annoying to use, but I’d rather support Mozilla than anyone else. The window into the internet shouldn’t be controlled by big companies. It’s a principle thing for me. To the author, thanks for your efforts.

I'm becoming more and more of the opinion that the web is dead and Google has won.

It's not true, at least until the only allowed engine on iOS is Safari. And it's the Safari, not Firefox, who sets the lowest bar feature-wise and in dev experience for several years already.

Re: Leaving Mozilla

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Post by patrickscoleman » Thu, Feb 11, 2021, 9:32 PM UTC

If you read these comments, Emily, just want to say thank you for having the courage to share this in public. Burnout is tough but it gets better. Helpful for others to know they're not alone.

And thank you for Firefox on Android!

Re: Leaving Mozilla

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Post by anuragsoni » Thu, Feb 11, 2021, 9:32 PM UTC

chordalkeyboard wrote: post #34

codys wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was curious about this, and went searching, and it's fairly difficult to figure out exactly what is being referenced. There is a reddit thread that links to deleted tweets that appears like it might be related: https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/comments/i8nuyb

Thanks for the link, always good to get more sides of a story.

I don't think there are "more sides" to this story. Harassing someone because one doesn't like an update to a piece of software is not okay.

Re: Leaving Mozilla

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Feb 11, 2021, 9:32 PM UTC

mdoms wrote: post #8

thgaway17 wrote: post #5

Looking at the picture makes me wonder why tech doesn’t get more constant criticism for being almost completely devoid of black faces?

Tech gets unending criticism for lack of diversity including the lack of black employees.

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Re: Leaving Mozilla

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Post by ascorbic » Thu, Feb 11, 2021, 9:33 PM UTC

gabereiser wrote: post #10

> ...but the release just felt like a blip in our planned schedule before jumping into more sprints and fires and thinking about the next iteration. Welcome to agile ? I know the feeling, honestly, but in software engineering there's always more bugs to fix, more features to develop, more needs of the users that require your attention. Cutting a release should feel like letting go, and indeed at places it does, but u…

She personally got a lot of abuse on Twitter about the FF Android rewrite. Nothing to do with layoffs. She doesn't need to prove this to you, but it was all visible at the time so I'm sure you can find it if you don't believe her.

Re: Leaving Mozilla

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Post by EvilEy3 » Thu, Feb 11, 2021, 9:33 PM UTC

alfiedotwtf wrote: post #39

ppf wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm becoming more and more of the opinion that the web is dead and Google has won.

Same. But I’ll continue to use Firefox until someone turns out the lights...

Same. Firefox + Lockwise is a great combination, will also use Mozilla VPN when that comes out.

Re: Leaving Mozilla

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Post by jakub_g » Thu, Feb 11, 2021, 9:33 PM UTC

gabereiser wrote: post #10

> ...but the release just felt like a blip in our planned schedule before jumping into more sprints and fires and thinking about the next iteration. Welcome to agile ? I know the feeling, honestly, but in software engineering there's always more bugs to fix, more features to develop, more needs of the users that require your attention. Cutting a release should feel like letting go, and indeed at places it does, but u…

She was harassed pretty hard in a very sexist way on some 4chan-like discussion boards. If you're very interested in details, you can scroll through her Twitter few months back.