Are there plans to do in-person classes when that becomes permitted?
Launch HN: Chorus Meditation (YC W21) – Meditation for Non-Meditators
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Re: Launch HN: Chorus Meditation (YC W21) – Meditation for Non-Meditators
#42You folks seem upbeat and sincere, so it pains me to tell you this, but having looked into your site I believe you're being irresponsible (that's the nicest way I can say it.) Yours is not the first crew to do this. It's got a bit of a long history here in the SF Bay Area, going back at least to Leonard Orr in the 1970's, who believed he was on the trail of physical immortality .[1] I was looking up Grof's "Holotropi…
Criticism has its place, and some of your concerns may be helpful, but "you don't know what you're doing" and "this is all bad" are simply rude judgments.
I don't see the point in accusing the team of "selling air". Would you accuse a trainer of "selling movement" or a coach of "selling words"??
Breath is a fundamental component of the human experience that affects our mood, health, and everyday experience. Learning how your breath affects your experience is valuable just like any other physical activity (yoga, running, meditation, exercise). There is also a spiritual component to introspective practices like meditation which can be quite valuable. For some people, it's definitely worth paying for these things.
If you're only comfortable with gurus doing this work, what would a guru need to be "qualified"?
Re: Launch HN: Chorus Meditation (YC W21) – Meditation for Non-Meditators
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wow oh my gosh! Michelle is that you? Thank you SO much for sharing your experience using Chorus. Being a former fellow Twillion myself it means so much to me to get to share it with the Twilio community.
It is :) I have recruited several folks to Chorus this year and they are finding it quite helpful! My husband in particular has had some really intense (in a good way) experiences. A friend just reached out to me today to tell me how much he is enjoying it, and mentioned he noticed your launch on HN, so I wanted to come put in a good word :) Interesting pattern, the people I've referred who have gotten the most out o…
First of all - thank you for sharing Chorus with people in your life!
And that ISSS really interesting. We initially weren't as focused on startup CEOS as a core demographic, but since being in Y Combinator and seeing how much a bunch of our batch mates and finding it helpful we are totally rethinking how we can help other founders de-stress and navigate the challenging dynamics of starting a company more effectively. That's so great to hear that it helps with your leadership - I can totally see that. Being more empathetic and in touch is such a plus for leadership. I think your hypothesis about them being comfortable in intense environments AND knowing the importance of introspective practices is spot on!
Re: Launch HN: Chorus Meditation (YC W21) – Meditation for Non-Meditators
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I'm not familiar with meditation; I hear it's all the rage but I don't understand the benefits. It is said to "reduce stress", but stress is mostly the result of external stimuli. It's a symptom, like fever. If you treat the symptom without addressing the cause, what good is it? Meditation sounds like a post-religion religion, but at least there was the promise of silence. Now we have loud meditation? To me this vide…
> It's a symptom, like fever. If you treat the symptom without addressing the cause, what good is it? Quite good when the symptom is harmful in itself, which both fevers that are sufficiently high and stress can very much be.
Absolutely - as I shared above - stress is totally a symptom! Check out my comment above about what the underling causes are. And youre so right that the added HEALTH benefits of reducing stress (like a fever) are huge as well. Here is a doc we have that summarizes how cortisol and stress impact the body: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k6QyxX7_btMWUExto_KfESBm...
Re: Launch HN: Chorus Meditation (YC W21) – Meditation for Non-Meditators
#45Are there plans to do in-person classes when that becomes permitted?
There are! We believe in the power of community connection, so when it is safe we have plans to have "studios" in certain cities so that our community can come together even more!
Re: Launch HN: Chorus Meditation (YC W21) – Meditation for Non-Meditators
#46You folks seem upbeat and sincere, so it pains me to tell you this, but having looked into your site I believe you're being irresponsible (that's the nicest way I can say it.) Yours is not the first crew to do this. It's got a bit of a long history here in the SF Bay Area, going back at least to Leonard Orr in the 1970's, who believed he was on the trail of physical immortality .[1] I was looking up Grof's "Holotropi…
Come now, I love that you know about all this stuff and as someone who used to order Esalen catalogs as a teenager, I share your fascinations—but this is an extreme stretch. These guys aren't doing orgone therapy, rebirthings, or (heaven help us) immortality. Also, it's a category error to conflate Wilhelm Reich, Leonard Orr, and Stan Grof—three completely different figures. Totally agree about the fascination of Rei…
appreciate your comments! (not that we mind the above discourse) - but you are totally right that we are doing VERY different things from the intense breathwork (e.g. rebirthings, Gof, etc) you noted. A big reason we created Chorus was because those forms of breathwork were too intense for us, and certainly too intense to do more than, say every 3 months. So Chorus is a much more approachable and dialed down practice that you can do to unlock a daily mindfulness habit.
Re: Launch HN: Chorus Meditation (YC W21) – Meditation for Non-Meditators
#47so far everything (trial, videos, etc.) that you are selling is behind sharing something of a PII.
Why? I just want to try the shoes on before buying.
Re: Launch HN: Chorus Meditation (YC W21) – Meditation for Non-Meditators
#48so far everything (trial, videos, etc.) that you are selling is behind sharing something of a PII. Why? I just want to try the shoes on before buying.
heres a trial that you dont need to put any cc info in:
https://sutrapro.com/chorusmeditation/pricing/checkout/EbHZD...
and for the video on docsend, its not a paid wall - just put in your email and you can view: https://docsend.com/view/hxra3rnfevsytg4v
Re: Launch HN: Chorus Meditation (YC W21) – Meditation for Non-Meditators
#49so far everything (trial, videos, etc.) that you are selling is behind sharing something of a PII. Why? I just want to try the shoes on before buying.
heres a trial that you dont need to put any cc info in: https://sutrapro.com/chorusmeditation/pricing/checkout/EbHZD... and for the video on docsend, its not a paid wall - just put in your email and you can view: https://docsend.com/view/hxra3rnfevsytg4v
The trial still requires full name, email address, and for me to create a password.
The docsend video requires an email address, and rejects "a@example.com" as fake, so it wants a real email address, which implies to me you want to collect it for marketing / lead generation purposes.
Is there any reason you can't put a one or two minute "example" meditation video on YouTube?
Re: Launch HN: Chorus Meditation (YC W21) – Meditation for Non-Meditators
#50So is this some sort of hyperventilation breathwork done in savasana to pop music? I guess as long as the breath retentions aren't super long they should be ok, as long as the practitioner doesn't have underlying health issues, but I've seen videos of people having mini seizures doing Wim Hof breathing. Just be careful with it, there's a reason why pranayama is introduced gently and progressively over a long period of time.
Also, I would maybe drop the references to meditation. It seems more like breathwork in the tradition of a Stanislav Grof, which is totally fine and valid, just maybe misleading for newcomers expecting meditation.