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Dyson air purifier outperformed by cheap DIY box fan filter in Marketplace test

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Re: Dyson air purifier outperformed by cheap DIY box fan filter in Marketplace test

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The idea is that the fan is deployed in a closed room and over time, all the air in the room will be circulated through the filter.

But isn't using a fan too long in an enclosed room dangerous? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_death

No, it’s not.

Re: Dyson air purifier outperformed by cheap DIY box fan filter in Marketplace test

#52

Dyson : Air Products :: Beats : Audio Products Pretty much every Dyson product I've used, from the public bathroom air "blades" to the vacuums, seem like a gimmicky, inferior products with a premium price tag. None of them do their intended job better than older, cheaper products in their category. I know James Dyson is regarded as a genius engineer, but the consumer product company bearing his name seems to be 99% m…

One thing I particularly appreciate about our Dyson corded vacuum is that I can take the whole damned air path apart if needed, without tools. It's quite useful when something gets jammed up in a u-bend.

I have no comment about the rest of it, compared to other ones, because I haven't had to replace it since we got it a couple of decades ago.

Re: Dyson air purifier outperformed by cheap DIY box fan filter in Marketplace test

#53
post #33

The recommended pick from the Wirecutter is the Coway AP-1512HH Mighty (as of this post, the recommendation was last updated January 15, 2021) [0]. The CADR is available on Coway's product page in what I assume to be imperial units given the units of the other specifications: "233 (Smoke), 246 (Dust), 240 (Pollen)" (under "Specification") [1]. This CADR score puts it just between the BlueAir Blue Pure 211 and GermGua…

Some additional info about this device is available from Energy Star to confirm the CADR ratings are in cfm. [0] This is odd, as the standard for CADR is often in m3/h. That works out to about 420 ish m3/h in this case.

I rememeber seeing a video on YouTube indicating this device takes 2.2W on low, 4.4 on medium, and about 40 on high. [1] The disparity is reasonable, as the fan laws state that power increases with the cube of shaft speed, and airflow is proportional. Given that the product runs with such low power, it uses a brushless dc motor.

The only issue with this device is that it appears to lack serious amounts of carbon filtration - no hundreds of grams of carbon pellets for odor and chemical adsorption. Not sure if this could be added as a DIY addon.

[0] https://www.energystar.gov/productfinder/product/certified-r...

[1] 5:25 of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBv2aPMWdmI

Re: Dyson air purifier outperformed by cheap DIY box fan filter in Marketplace test

#54
post #14

Dyson : Air Products :: Beats : Audio Products Pretty much every Dyson product I've used, from the public bathroom air "blades" to the vacuums, seem like a gimmicky, inferior products with a premium price tag. None of them do their intended job better than older, cheaper products in their category. I know James Dyson is regarded as a genius engineer, but the consumer product company bearing his name seems to be 99% m…

I love the public bathroom Dyson thingies. They kinda became a standard for me now, love how quickly they dry hands. Way better than paper, towels or weak fans. But yeah, the other stuff is a bit gimmicky.

Air dryers are super unhygienic. One person who did not wash their hands properly means droplets with germs all over the place. Plus, in places with high humidity (or even otherwise) it takes a long time to actually dry your hand. Recyclable paper towels are so much better.

Re: Dyson air purifier outperformed by cheap DIY box fan filter in Marketplace test

#55
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The idea is that the fan is deployed in a closed room and over time, all the air in the room will be circulated through the filter.

But isn't using a fan too long in an enclosed room dangerous? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_death

Lol. Been a while since I’ve seen that.

Re: Dyson air purifier outperformed by cheap DIY box fan filter in Marketplace test

#56
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But isn't using a fan too long in an enclosed room dangerous? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_death

No. This is yet another urban myth. "Despite no concrete evidence to support the concept, belief in fan death persists to this day in Korea,[further explanation needed] and also to a lesser extent in Japan.[1][2][3]"

IIRC, this myth stems from a successful govt propaganda campaign that aimed to reduce power usage at night and put an end to rolling blackouts.

Re: Dyson air purifier outperformed by cheap DIY box fan filter in Marketplace test

#57
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love the public bathroom Dyson thingies. They kinda became a standard for me now, love how quickly they dry hands. Way better than paper, towels or weak fans. But yeah, the other stuff is a bit gimmicky.

Those bathroom hand dryers do spread bacteria around at an alarming rate: https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/the-bacterial-horror-of-...

> the researchers attached high-efficiency particulate air (HEPA) filters to the dryers, which would eliminate most of the bacteria from the air passing through the dryer.

As I recall, one of the selling features of the Dyson Airblade is that it has a HEPA filter built-in.

Re: Dyson air purifier outperformed by cheap DIY box fan filter in Marketplace test

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post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The idea is that the fan is deployed in a closed room and over time, all the air in the room will be circulated through the filter.

But isn't using a fan too long in an enclosed room dangerous? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_death

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Re: Dyson air purifier outperformed by cheap DIY box fan filter in Marketplace test

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post #33

The recommended pick from the Wirecutter is the Coway AP-1512HH Mighty (as of this post, the recommendation was last updated January 15, 2021) [0]. The CADR is available on Coway's product page in what I assume to be imperial units given the units of the other specifications: "233 (Smoke), 246 (Dust), 240 (Pollen)" (under "Specification") [1]. This CADR score puts it just between the BlueAir Blue Pure 211 and GermGua…

We have four in our house and they are workhorses. Still running strong and quiet 3-4 years later of running 24/7. Probably one of the best things I've ever bought.

They are also popular enough, and have been around long enough, that there is an "ecosystem" of third party replacement filters that are affordable and capable.

The sound of the Coway is also quite nice for sleeping in our opinion. It's a quiet "whoooosh", not grating at all.

Given the observed longevity of the Coways, I suspect they are actually cheaper than "DIY box fan" solution after a couple of years if you're running them 24/7. Sure, you can get a cheap box fan, but you'll be lucky if it lasts 6-12 months running 24/7 while trying to suck air through a filter.

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