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Re: Google Apps dropping support for older browsers

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Interesting. These aren't really what most people would consider older browsers. It looks like two years is their support cutoff, based on when FF 3.5 came out.

The linked article says that it is the two last major releases. Why that does not mean FF 4 and 3, I don't get.

Google must consider the 'current' major version of Firefox 5, which will be released soon (maybe in time for the enforcing of this new plan?).

Re: Google Apps dropping support for older browsers

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Sad to see they don't even mention Opera. I don't use it, but it should run google apps without problems. Also i know very big companies that still use IE6, sadly. For those people stuck without admin access and ancient browsers: Give Firefox Portable a try, it saved my day last week ;) Apart from that, go google go! I like this move and more websites should just do this..

Didn't the Google team also make Chrome now usable/installable without Admin rights?

That was Chrome Frame, the Internet Explorer plugin that enables chrome rendering in IE.

Re: Google Apps dropping support for older browsers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Didn't the Google team also make Chrome now usable/installable without Admin rights?

That was Chrome Frame, the Internet Explorer plugin that enables chrome rendering in IE.

Chrome itself can be installed without admin rights, I remember using that on a University pc to view a flash video with the embedded plugin.

Re: Google Apps dropping support for older browsers

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Very glad to see them dropping the older browsers. Hopefully more web companies will follow giving legacy companies impetus to upgrade.

Narrowing their list of modern browsers so tightly is a little worrying though, any standards supporting browser (opera?) should be considered, otherwise they could be enforcing a cartel of current browsers.

Re: Google Apps dropping support for older browsers

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Interesting. These aren't really what most people would consider older browsers. It looks like two years is their support cutoff, based on when FF 3.5 came out.

I don't think their cutoff date is as important as the browsers they cut off. IE6/7 are a pain to support and test. Maybe Google figures that people that far behind are going to stay with what they have/know (e.g, Microsoft Office), and that may not be a bad bet.

Re: Google Apps dropping support for older browsers

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Sad to see they don't even mention Opera. I don't use it, but it should run google apps without problems. Also i know very big companies that still use IE6, sadly. For those people stuck without admin access and ancient browsers: Give Firefox Portable a try, it saved my day last week ;) Apart from that, go google go! I like this move and more websites should just do this..

My complaint exactly. I use Opera almost exclusively and it deserves a much larger market share than it has...

I was using Opera extensively for the past year - then recently it started nagging me to turn on Turbo (which allows Opera to track your traffic), so when I switched systems I didn't install it on the new one - just FireFox and IE9. Although there are features of Opera I miss, I like the various privacy plugins available on Firefox a hell of a lot more than what passes for an equivalent on Opera. Although there a lots of Opera features I like, it just seemed that suck was increasingly creeping into it. I kept feeling like Opera had begun presenting popups to get me to change my settings.

Re: Google Apps dropping support for older browsers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My complaint exactly. I use Opera almost exclusively and it deserves a much larger market share than it has...

I was using Opera extensively for the past year - then recently it started nagging me to turn on Turbo (which allows Opera to track your traffic), so when I switched systems I didn't install it on the new one - just FireFox and IE9. Although there are features of Opera I miss, I like the various privacy plugins available on Firefox a hell of a lot more than what passes for an equivalent on Opera. Although there a lot…

Nope, you just had it set to auto, which makes it warn you about slow connections. I set it to off when I saw the first popup and I've never seen it since. They're pretty good about being nonintrusive and nice.

Re: Google Apps dropping support for older browsers

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You know sometimes it really annoys me that I work somewhere that only supports IE7. Good thing that jobs thread came up today.

Count yourself lucky. Amongst our enterprise-level customers, IE6 (yes, 6, you read that right) is still the majority of page hits.

It might be worth mentioning how IE 6 is still there. IE 6 is the only version that ever came with Windows XP and 2003 install images, which many many corps still use. And remember that the average lifetime of a Windows installation on a corporate desktop is actually pretty short, getting wiped and re-imaged frequently as people leave or machines are moved around or some Outlook error pops up and the IT guy re-images because that's faster than digging in to fix it. So IE 6 comes out of the reinstallation casket all the time.

It's not that corps are scared of upgrading, it's just not worthwhile from a cost-benefit standpoint to download and install IE 8 on every single machine on every reinstall. Their users that want IE 8 or Firefox will go get it; the users that don't know what a browser version is never know that they're missing anything. IE 6 will only go away when Windows XP does.

FWIW, I intentionally keep IE 6 on my work machine (not a big corp, but we sell to them) for testing, and use Opera for real browsing.

Re: Google Apps dropping support for older browsers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was Chrome Frame, the Internet Explorer plugin that enables chrome rendering in IE.

Chrome itself can be installed without admin rights, I remember using that on a University pc to view a flash video with the embedded plugin.

We deal with a large enterprise that uses old versions of IE and whenever our support team encounters one we just upgrade them to Chrome. Sadly we can't recommend any other browser since they all require admin access for some reason.

Re: Google Apps dropping support for older browsers

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Dropping support for older browsers shows why Google Apps will continue to struggle against Microsoft products for government contracts such as was the case recently in San Francisco. Large organizations get locked into legacy OS's for many reasons - example government agencies who bought and rely on geospatial data in Autodesk Mapguide format. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mapguide http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servle…

Luckily Google has decided that the entire rest of the world doesn't have to wait for every bureaucracy to upgrade their antiquated systems in order to make progress.
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