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Larry Flynt has died

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Re: Larry Flynt has died

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Post by ALittleLight »

AdamJacobMuller wrote: post #67
ThrowawayR2 wrote: post #64

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> " I don’t understand what’s wrong with owning your platform to exercise your speech rights. " MLK and the civil rights movement didn't own their own platform. The LGBT rights movement didn't own their own platform. The women's rights movement didn't own their own platform. Would you have been okay with them being swept under the rug? It's not as if people in power didn't want to.

The bigger problem is "define platform" Don't like twitter censorship, make your own twitter. Ergo, Parler. Oh, but, that's not "your" platform, that's built on AWS's platform. So AWS can deplatform you. What's next, if Parler sets up in a datacenter with their own physical servers are people going to attack their colocation/transit/peers or their DNS provider or their domain registrar or their SSL certificate issuer…

Oh, your phone app is banned? Just make your own phone, hardware and software.

Re: Larry Flynt has died

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Post by ggm »

dragonwriter wrote: post #32
ggm wrote: post #4

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would "Hustler" (ie quoted) be better? What specifically about this did you dislike? The idea of a generalised hustler type, as a founder (somebody who founds, and hustles) or .. ?

Hustler would be better; italics (or underlining) is conventional for periodical titles, quotations for article titles within the periodical.

not wishing to experiment in the commons, can we "do" markup tricks in the title?

Re: Larry Flynt has died

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Post by mbg721 »

krapp wrote: post #61
eplanit wrote: post #57

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I'm afraid people now see it as an antiquated and outmoded perspective on free speech. His attitude was embraced by progressive people of the late 20th century. That said, he too had to own his own platform in order to exercise his rights.

Given how much porn there is on the internet I don't think that many people have an issue with the Larry Flynts of the world.

Not anymore, but it was a huge deal a few decades ago. Not that porn was ever lacking an audience, but openly accepting it as okay for polite society was a much less popular opinion in the 80s than it is now.

Re: Larry Flynt has died

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Post by abiogenesis »

eyelidlessness wrote: post #10
abiogenesis wrote: post #5

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"The founder of Hustler" would be less confusing.

That seems exceedingly nitpicky given the way headlines get meaningfully edited to say different things here all the time. The words are the same in a different order but grammatically identical.

I disagree. It might be confusing for someone who doesn't know Hustler (the magazine). It sounds unlikely but I'm not sure if younger generation know about those print magazines.

Re: Larry Flynt has died

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Post by njarboe »

ALittleLight wrote: post #71
AdamJacobMuller wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The bigger problem is "define platform" Don't like twitter censorship, make your own twitter. Ergo, Parler. Oh, but, that's not "your" platform, that's built on AWS's platform. So AWS can deplatform you. What's next, if Parler sets up in a datacenter with their own physical servers are people going to attack their colocation/transit/peers or their DNS provider or their domain registrar or their SSL certificate issuer…

Oh, your phone app is banned? Just make your own phone, hardware and software.

Check out: https://puri.sm/products/

Re: Larry Flynt has died

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Post by soheil »

eyelidlessness wrote: post #48
slibhb wrote: post #17

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The previous poster misunderstood your comment because "hustler" is also used to refer to a male prostitute. Therefore your post was "insufficiently sex-work-positive"...or something

Now you’ve misinterpreted me. I was under the assumption that Hustler is a widely known pornographic publication/production house and Larry Flynt a widely known free speech advocate as a defender of said business empire. I assumed (wrongly) that the objection to Hustler being in the title was a blanket rejection of sex work as a part of the general social contract worth discussing at all. But I assumed that based on…

You've made a point to read into anodyne comments to credulously fit your narrative of what HN users believe or don't believe?

Re: Larry Flynt has died

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Post by kenneth »

krapp wrote: post #61
eplanit wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm afraid people now see it as an antiquated and outmoded perspective on free speech. His attitude was embraced by progressive people of the late 20th century. That said, he too had to own his own platform in order to exercise his rights.

Given how much porn there is on the internet I don't think that many people have an issue with the Larry Flynts of the world.

Today the thought people can't bear is no longer porn, it's anything remotely not woke. It's any opinion that even slightly diverges from their own.

Re: Larry Flynt has died

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Post by AdamJacobMuller »

ALittleLight wrote: post #71
AdamJacobMuller wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The bigger problem is "define platform" Don't like twitter censorship, make your own twitter. Ergo, Parler. Oh, but, that's not "your" platform, that's built on AWS's platform. So AWS can deplatform you. What's next, if Parler sets up in a datacenter with their own physical servers are people going to attack their colocation/transit/peers or their DNS provider or their domain registrar or their SSL certificate issuer…

Oh, your phone app is banned? Just make your own phone, hardware and software.

Phone apps are more complex.

My concern is less apple banning things and far more when apple and google operate in lockstep.

there is a fundamental misunderstanding in the app store review world, it was highlighted when google banned element(??) the matrix client. will apple ban IRC clients because they can connect to bad servers with universally objectionable content? will they ban SSH clients because they can be used to hack?

With the last big ban controversy (fortnight) I was firmly in the pro walled garden camp, but, now i’m no longer seeing where the big duopoly draws the line and i don’t like it.

Re: Larry Flynt has died

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Post by AdamJacobMuller »

njarboe wrote: post #75
ALittleLight wrote: post #71

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Oh, your phone app is banned? Just make your own phone, hardware and software.

Check out: https://puri.sm/products/

I don’t feel like purism is a viable alternative. it’s very expensive for what you’re getting and in all respects that i’ve heard the software is not up to par and the ecosystem is effectively non-existent.

I have yet to try one personally and might soon in spite of the price tag, i would love to be wrong but i don’t think i am.

Re: Larry Flynt has died

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Post by [deleted] »

kenneth wrote: post #77
krapp wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given how much porn there is on the internet I don't think that many people have an issue with the Larry Flynts of the world.

Today the thought people can't bear is no longer porn, it's anything remotely not woke. It's any opinion that even slightly diverges from their own.

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