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Cambridge Bitcoin Electricity Consumption Index

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#191
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And who is gonna foot the bill for the mining?

You already pay to heat your house, what if you could be paid to hear your house?

Your house is not necessarily heated with electricity.

Running an ASIC 24/7 would use up like $285 worth of electricity per month if you pay 12 cents for each kilowatt-hour.

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#192
post #54

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Off chain through Liquid or Lighting networks.

The funny thing is that there is 117x more Bitcoin on Layer 2 ETH in WBTC[1] than in the lighting network[2]. $5,793,513,475.00 // WBTC (Bitcoin on Ethereum) $49,173,964.59 // Lightning [1] - https://wbtc.network/dashboard/order-book [2] - https://1ml.com/statistics

That's not surprising if you consider that tokenized BTC is often used for collateral in difi.

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#193
post #151

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It won't and even BTC enthusiasts have given up on that. They narrative is now that BTC is a "store of value".

For many BTC enthusiasts the store of value narrative has been in place for a very long time. “I see Bitcoin as ultimately becoming a reserve currency for banks, playing much the same role as gold did in the early days of banking. Banks could issue digital cash with greater anonymity and lighter weight, more efficient transactions.” - Hal Finney (2010)

> Banks could issue digital cash with greater anonymity

Why would (a) my bank want to do this, and (b) why would I want my bank to do this?

Re: Cambridge Bitcoin Electricity Consumption Index

#194
post #23

From what I understand bitcoin currently has a $20+ transaction fee with a transaction time takes 60 minutes+ With these issues in addition to the high power consumption, how will Bitcoin become a usable currency?

It won't and even BTC enthusiasts have given up on that. They narrative is now that BTC is a "store of value".

I'd rather use Whisky as my store of value. With that you can still have a party when the power goes off.

Re: Cambridge Bitcoin Electricity Consumption Index

#195
this is beyond stupidity. first we waste all that material and brainpower in stupid wars where we destroy what we build, and kill those who remember how. and then comes captchas and passwords which steal so many hours from all the humans alive. and now things like this, it really pisses me off tbh. this should be used to find cures to peoples suffering. like the value should be real.

Re: Cambridge Bitcoin Electricity Consumption Index

#196
post #52

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Electricity is one of the most inefficient ways to heat a dwelling. I think natural gas is still considered to be several times more efficient but I haven’t looked at it in a few years. Of course if you are also getting benefits from the crypto you mined that will offset the cost.

>Electricity is one of the most inefficient ways to heat a dwelling. This is not true. Resistive heating is inefficient indeed but not all forms of conversion of electricity are inefficient. Geothermal pumps are very efficient for instance and use electricity only, they can be assisted directly by solar (PV) too.

Resistive Heating is literally the most efficient form of heating where 100% (ie, all of) of the electric watts you put in are turned into thermal energy.

Doesn't mean that the generator on the other end is efficient but that is a separate concern that can benefit from economies of scale (a big gas turbine would be more efficient than a swarm of small gas ovens producing the same energy).

Re: Cambridge Bitcoin Electricity Consumption Index

#197
post #125
post #37

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> how will Bitcoin become a usable currency It won't, it's just a speculative asset.

Money is a speculative asset.

Sure. Backed by the government who has the legal monopoly of use of force. And an army.

So… there's that.

Re: Cambridge Bitcoin Electricity Consumption Index

#198
post #23

From what I understand bitcoin currently has a $20+ transaction fee with a transaction time takes 60 minutes+ With these issues in addition to the high power consumption, how will Bitcoin become a usable currency?

> how will Bitcoin become a usable currency?

Wake up, this question was reasonable in 2010, maybe 2015. :) Today no serious person is still thinking it would be usable :)

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#199
post #7

Question that came to mind after reading the headline: could this become a future reason for governments to criminalise the trading / use of Bitcoin because of negative environmental effects? On the surface it seems the value of Bitcoin is directly tied to its energy consumption and thus environmental harm. I get that Bitcoin itself is decentralised and cannot be banned outright. But could it be neutered in such a wa…

Will anyone criminalise the US army because they use lots of energy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_usage_of_the_United_Sta... The answer: they might try, but good luck with that.

>Will anyone criminalise the US army because they use lots of energy?

Ah yes, the old trope that people use the US dollar because they are forced to.

Meanwhile, back in reality, people around the world are desperate to get their hands on USD for commerce, because it's easily transacted, accepted and valued anywhere. You know, kinda like Bitcoin purports to be, but way more common.

Re: Cambridge Bitcoin Electricity Consumption Index

#200
post #23

From what I understand bitcoin currently has a $20+ transaction fee with a transaction time takes 60 minutes+ With these issues in addition to the high power consumption, how will Bitcoin become a usable currency?

It won't and even BTC enthusiasts have given up on that. They narrative is now that BTC is a "store of value".

I think both of you agree on this one - once it is too expensive to transact, it will be a permanent store of value ;p
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