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Mozilla Welcomes the Rust Foundation

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Re: Mozilla Welcomes the Rust Foundation

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post #8

Well, I guess we all wait for Mozilla to ruin Rust now as well.

Give Mozilla credit where credit is due instead of reflexively throwing trite criticisms.

Yes they have their fair share of problems, but we owe them a thanks for its foundations at Mozilla and their help in bringing it to where it is today.

Re: Mozilla Welcomes the Rust Foundation

#12
post #8

Well, I guess we all wait for Mozilla to ruin Rust now as well.

This comment confuses me. Mozilla is going to ruin Rust now? Not in the 10 years that it has been a part of Mozilla, but after it became independent?

Glad i wasn't the only one.

Re: Mozilla Welcomes the Rust Foundation

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post #6
post #3

I know Mozilla played a big part w.r.t Rust, but it's strange to see this on the front page... we had this 2 days ago https://foundation.rust-lang.org/posts/2021-02-08-hello-worl... , and now we have a low-effort blog post front-paging that is welcoming the foundation.

Mozilla also played a big part in this foundation being necessary after it laid off most of its employees involved in Rust last year. The foundation is a good idea of course, but they could have handled it better, e.g. setting up the foundation first, so that the Rust developers could transition to it without the disturbance and bad PR generated by the layoffs? It's not that Mozilla is so cash-strapped that it had to…

Reminds me a bit of how Mozilla got rid of Mail&News, some years back.

Re: Mozilla Welcomes the Rust Foundation

#14
They congratulate themselves?

Why no Firefox Foundation?

Wasn't Mozilla already a non-profit Foundation?

On its own, it is a great move for Rust, more independence, but this sounds more like a new title for marketing PR purposes than anything else.. hope i'm wrong, rust needs it

EDIT: what makes posts reach #1 on HN?

Re: Mozilla Welcomes the Rust Foundation

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> Mozilla used Rust to build Stylo, the CSS engine in Firefox (replacing approximately 160,000 lines of C++ with 85,000 lines of Rust).

I would have loved to see two competing teams rewrite it, one in C++ and the other in Rust.

Saying that the rewrite is better does nothing to say WHY it's better. Refactored code is almost always radically better, even when it's in the same language, for reasons that might be insulting to explain on HN.

Point is, this is not an apples-to-apples comparison.

(I'm not arguing Rust isn't better. Nor that cutting your code base nearly in half isn't impressive. Simply that this single metric on their part seems like weak sauce.)

Re: Mozilla Welcomes the Rust Foundation

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> Mozilla used Rust to build Stylo, the CSS engine in Firefox (replacing approximately 160,000 lines of C++ with 85,000 lines of Rust). I would have loved to see two competing teams rewrite it, one in C++ and the other in Rust. Saying that the rewrite is better does nothing to say WHY it's better. Refactored code is almost always radically better, even when it's in the same language, for reasons that might be insulti…

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Re: Mozilla Welcomes the Rust Foundation

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The Mozilla corp style usual bullshit. You click on the button that says: "Learn more about how we're different" And you arrive on the page that says that: > Please, tell me again how different you are? ...

Different from the original structure where it was all Mozilla.
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