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Post by schnabler » Wed, Jun 01, 2011, 3:54 PM UTC

kickme444 wrote: post #4

And the viral ad is now complete! Big win for Hidden.

Andrew Warner, get the Hidden guys on Mixergy. Would be great to learn about their conversion rate with this awesome campaign.

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Post by tudorizer » Wed, Jun 01, 2011, 3:55 PM UTC

ltamake wrote: post #16

hvass wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any proof he is actually arrested?

I'm skeptical too. The fact that he didn't put a disclaimer on his site that he wasn't affiliated with Hidden is odd.

This has "marketing campaign" written all over it. Good try.

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Post by mponizil » Wed, Jun 01, 2011, 3:57 PM UTC

Anyone wonder about "Guy sleeping on the couch next to my MacBook."? Doesn't the app use the computer's camera to take pictures?

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Post by bdhe » Wed, Jun 01, 2011, 3:57 PM UTC

iconfinder wrote: post #15

zitterbewegung wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IANAL There is a law on the books about privacy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privacy_laws_of_the_United_Stat... Good luck trying to convince a Judge or a court that you should have privacy when you have stolen something...

People have sued McDonald's for serving hot coffee in the US: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonalds_Restaurant...

Argh, this is actually a very legitimate case. It is rather unfortunate that in most people's eyes this is viewed as a textbook example of a farcical lawsuit.

Some points, which are mentioned in the very wiki article you linked.

* The coffee was about 45F or 20C higher than McDonald's guidelines.

* The coffee caused third-degree burns that required skin grafting

* Liebeck initially only asked to be compensated $18,000 largely to cover medical expenses; third-degree burns, an eight-day hospital stay which lead her to lose 20 lbs.

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Post by kemayo » Wed, Jun 01, 2011, 4:04 PM UTC

biot wrote: post #10

There's a reason the media always mentions the alleged in conjunction with a claimed crime. You know, the whole presumption of innocence thing that some consider important in a free society.

I understand that the media actually does that because if they don't they can get sued for libel if the person in question is in fact innocent. It's no great moral stand they're taking in applying the label.

Also, I agree that the legal system and suchlike should presume innocence, but there's no reason private citizens can't advocate their believe that someone is guilty as sin.

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Post by americandesi333 » Wed, Jun 01, 2011, 4:05 PM UTC

On a side note... this is great PR for Hidden. I just spoke to a friend in New York and she said that she followed a similar story there couple of weeks ago on Twitter. It could just be coincidence. None the less good to see the laptop recovered!

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Post by Kylekramer » Wed, Jun 01, 2011, 4:06 PM UTC

mponizil wrote: post #23

Anyone wonder about "Guy sleeping on the couch next to my MacBook."? Doesn't the app use the computer's camera to take pictures?

That confused me too. But the silver thing on the couch isn't the Macbook, probably a remote. The laptop is apparently still open on a table or something while he is asleep and somehow catching him perfectly in frame (yes, I am still skeptical of this).

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Post by snorkel » Wed, Jun 01, 2011, 4:09 PM UTC

By stealing this Macbook you hereby agree to these Terms and Conditions which allow the rightful Owner of said Macbook to write and publish short stories and prose illustrated with your likeness captured by Hidden app.

"My name is Hernando. I have your bourgeois lap typing machine! I have it here, in my lair ... my love lair. So come and get it! Come, come here and taste death! I spit on your bourgeois typing machine! Pah! There! I don't want it! I don't steal because I covet! I steal for love. For PASSION. For the eternal animal within. AND ... why does this little dark circle above the screen keep lighting up? Um, maybe I should put a shirt on."

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Post by uptown » Wed, Jun 01, 2011, 4:10 PM UTC

americandesi333 wrote: post #26

On a side note... this is great PR for Hidden. I just spoke to a friend in New York and she said that she followed a similar story there couple of weeks ago on Twitter. It could just be coincidence. None the less good to see the laptop recovered!

That incident involved a tool called Prey.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110513/01182814258/one-ma...

Prey is free BTW:

http://preyproject.com/

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Post by albedoa » Wed, Jun 01, 2011, 4:11 PM UTC

bdhe wrote: post #24

iconfinder wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People have sued McDonald's for serving hot coffee in the US: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonalds_Restaurant...

Argh, this is actually a very legitimate case. It is rather unfortunate that in most people's eyes this is viewed as a textbook example of a farcical lawsuit. Some points, which are mentioned in the very wiki article you linked. * The coffee was about 45F or 20C higher than McDonald's guidelines. * The coffee caused third-degree burns that required skin grafting * Liebeck initially only asked to be compensated $18,00…

Do you think it is understandable that someone might know all of the facts of the suit and still consider it a farcical lawsuit, if not a textbook example of one?

I ask because those facts are often presented with the presumption that the person crying frivolousness hasn't considered them before forming his opinion.