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Pseudophilosophy encourages confused, self-indulgent thinking

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Re: Pseudophilosophy encourages confused, self-indulgent thinking

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I wonder if this an attempt to validate philosophy as a science in itself now that other sciences have invalidated many philosophical positions as being valid. My primary feeling about most philosophy is that it is a historical science instead of a systematic science, where the ideas of a certain philosopher are placed in the context of history. It also seems to me that the philosophers are more important than their…

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Re: Pseudophilosophy encourages confused, self-indulgent thinking

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Good read. The author’s real point is buried at the end when they argue that more emphasis needs to be placed on reading and thinking critically, and that being sure we teach students about fallacies is very important to combat this pseudo philosophy.

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I wonder if this an attempt to validate philosophy as a science in itself now that other sciences have invalidated many philosophical positions as being valid. My primary feeling about most philosophy is that it is a historical science instead of a systematic science, where the ideas of a certain philosopher are placed in the context of history. It also seems to me that the philosophers are more important than their…

There is an old joke that goes like this: It is well know that the Math department is the second cheapest department at a university. The people there only need a pencil, paper, and rubbish bin. But which is the cheapest department? The Philosophy department. There you don't need the bin.

yes but nowadays the Math department needs computers, so Computer Science must be cheaper.

Re: Pseudophilosophy encourages confused, self-indulgent thinking

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I like how he criticizes specifically people who reference hegel, jung, marx, etc. but then does not proceed to analyze hegel, et al or anyone that references them.

Pure philosophical shade, in the exact "aura of scholarly profundity" that he is supposedly criticizing.

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In the Phaedrus, it was predicted that writing and reading in general (let alone specific examples such as pseudophilosophy) would eventually encourage confused, self-indulgent thinking. > You offer your pupils the appearance of wisdom, not true wisdom, for they will read many things without instruction and will therefore seem to know many things, when they are for the most part ignorant and hard to get along with, s…

I’ve engaged in philosophy for years, and the most important thing you learn when actually debating, is to learn to think in different frameworks of mind. This alone is of great benefit when reading or taking in thoughts of others.

Re: Pseudophilosophy encourages confused, self-indulgent thinking

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This sort of thing is always by turns boring and frustrating to read, because there are good and interesting philosophical criticisms to be made of Foucault's epistemology, but the idea that for him facticity itself is questionable isn't one of them. Foucault is never really in doubt about what constitutes, e.g., an event, occurrence, or fact - actually his entire corpus very self-consciously relies on having a commo…

I didn't read the linked article yet, but to me, Foucault really is one of the most interesting intellectuals of the 20th century (or longer) - if only because of how differently people perceive him. There's that old debate between him and Chomsky, and it's incredible how different people will score that debate. Some see obscurantist posturing versus Chomsky's towering, rigourous intellect, where others see Chomsky outclassed so thoroughly he doesn't even understand what's going on.

(If you happen to be on the latter team, it's a meme format: https://foucaultnews.files.wordpress.com/2020/10/foucault-20...)

Re: Pseudophilosophy encourages confused, self-indulgent thinking

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This sort of thing is always by turns boring and frustrating to read, because there are good and interesting philosophical criticisms to be made of Foucault's epistemology, but the idea that for him facticity itself is questionable isn't one of them. Foucault is never really in doubt about what constitutes, e.g., an event, occurrence, or fact - actually his entire corpus very self-consciously relies on having a commo…

There would be little problem if his methods were confined to examining questions such as the truth of phrenology, the ideological presumptions that made it an appealing set of beliefs, and power relations that motivated them. Unfortunately, his followers (and Foucault himself) cast a far wider net than that, to the point at which power-knowledge becomes the predominant or even the only acceptable analytical framework in some fields. While that may not be entirely Foucault's fault, it is harmful nevertheless.

Re: Pseudophilosophy encourages confused, self-indulgent thinking

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I like how he criticizes specifically people who reference hegel, jung, marx, etc. but then does not proceed to analyze hegel, et al or anyone that references them. Pure philosophical shade, in the exact "aura of scholarly profundity" that he is supposedly criticizing.

The line: "Usually, the prose is infused with arcane terminology and learned jargon, creating an aura of scholarly profundity. We can call this phenomenon obscurantist pseudophilosophy." struck me as especially hilarious in context.
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