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Rise in Attacks on Elderly Asian Americans in Bay Area

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Re: Rise in Attacks on Elderly Asian Americans in Bay Area

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Post by pseudo0 »

MikeUt wrote: post #9
superflit wrote: post #5

This is an absurd. [1] - https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Black-attacks-on-Asians-... It is not about covid. Sometimes people Do belong in prison, not all people can live free.

Perhaps the US needs something like the German Pressekodex to regulate how minorities are mentioned in the news. Auto-translated from German: Directive 12.1 – Reporting on criminal offences In the reporting of criminal offences, care must be taken to ensure that the mention of the affiliation of suspects or perpetrators to ethnic, religious or other minorities does not lead to a discriminatory generalisation of indiv…

Ignoring a societal problem and mandating that the press boycott reporting on it sounds like a very ineffective strategy for actually improving the situation.

Re: Rise in Attacks on Elderly Asian Americans in Bay Area

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Post by aaomidi »

andyxor wrote: post #2

The DA, Chesa Boudin, put arrested criminals back on the streets with ultra-lenient policy, and this is the result https://abc7news.com/car-crash-san-francisco-lake-merced-sta... https://www.ktvu.com/news/family-of-84-year-old-killed-in-sf... https://abc7news.com/shocking-video-shows-man-pushed-to-grou... https://www.change.org/p/sfda-chesa-boudin-refused-to-resign... https://www.recallchesa.org/

Can you give any causative evidence to this rather than correlational evidence?

Re: Rise in Attacks on Elderly Asian Americans in Bay Area

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Post by bruceb »

andyxor wrote: post #2

The DA, Chesa Boudin, put arrested criminals back on the streets with ultra-lenient policy, and this is the result https://abc7news.com/car-crash-san-francisco-lake-merced-sta... https://www.ktvu.com/news/family-of-84-year-old-killed-in-sf... https://abc7news.com/shocking-video-shows-man-pushed-to-grou... https://www.change.org/p/sfda-chesa-boudin-refused-to-resign... https://www.recallchesa.org/

I don't have an opinion on Chea Boudin, but I have yet to see an detailed article that compares SF and other major cities crime rate in the past year . Crime is up nationally.

Maybe there is one but generally its like here this crime, must be Boudin's fault, without real analysis.

Re: Rise in Attacks on Elderly Asian Americans in Bay Area

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Post by pertymcpert »

bruceb wrote: post #6

At the risk of kicking a hornets nest...keep in mind that in SF 1 in every 3 people is Asian. Anything with race CNN will automatically push it.

It's not CNN, CNN are late to the party. This has been going on for a while, and the asian "community" has been talking about this before mainstream media picked it up. So there.

Re: Rise in Attacks on Elderly Asian Americans in Bay Area

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Post by im3w1l »

andyxor wrote: post #2

The DA, Chesa Boudin, put arrested criminals back on the streets with ultra-lenient policy, and this is the result https://abc7news.com/car-crash-san-francisco-lake-merced-sta... https://www.ktvu.com/news/family-of-84-year-old-killed-in-sf... https://abc7news.com/shocking-video-shows-man-pushed-to-grou... https://www.change.org/p/sfda-chesa-boudin-refused-to-resign... https://www.recallchesa.org/

Recently I've started thinking that some people have this unconsious uncomfortable feeling with the current society and how domesticated or perhaps over-socialized people have become, and that the solution they are reaching for without realizing it is to invert the common mantra into "crime should pay".

Re: Rise in Attacks on Elderly Asian Americans in Bay Area

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Post by bredren »

pertymcpert wrote: post #14
bruceb wrote: post #6

At the risk of kicking a hornets nest...keep in mind that in SF 1 in every 3 people is Asian. Anything with race CNN will automatically push it.

It's not CNN, CNN are late to the party. This has been going on for a while, and the asian "community" has been talking about this before mainstream media picked it up. So there.

The /r/Oakland sub has been tracking it to some extent, some of the video is heartbreaking.

Re: Rise in Attacks on Elderly Asian Americans in Bay Area

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Post by superflit »

MikeUt wrote: post #9
superflit wrote: post #5

This is an absurd. [1] - https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Black-attacks-on-Asians-... It is not about covid. Sometimes people Do belong in prison, not all people can live free.

Perhaps the US needs something like the German Pressekodex to regulate how minorities are mentioned in the news. Auto-translated from German: Directive 12.1 – Reporting on criminal offences In the reporting of criminal offences, care must be taken to ensure that the mention of the affiliation of suspects or perpetrators to ethnic, religious or other minorities does not lead to a discriminatory generalisation of indiv…

Look I do get it your good intentions.

But it will just make more problems.

If the reality hurt my feelings or others it is not reality that should be bent.

We need to be able to say and call it:

"HeY xxx group we have a problem, a long standing problem. We need to change our culture and start shaming people who does X or Z. We can't Protect anyone just because they are "our" tribe. Neither we can blame it for things done by other tribes centuries ago."

While we don't talk serious and frank we will be always around the issue. Every ten years we will have some new term to avoid this discussion.

I am a minority and my "group" was know for "scams" and troubles. It got so bad people like me avoided to speak our native language. The community started to exclude the bad apples. And suddenly the bad apples did not have more "contacts" or networks and started to "adjust" or go back to our country.

We need to pursue and be able to say the truth. And we need to shame this bad behavior.

As *today* one friend of mine did a instagram video saying that she is not Afro-american. That she is Haitian. That is an indirect call.

We non-whites already shame ourselves, the others and the people back home. I need the good Afro-americans leaders and celebreties to shame the bad apples and not only appear when it is to blame white people.

Re: Rise in Attacks on Elderly Asian Americans in Bay Area

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Post by superflit »

alephnan wrote: post #8

I've found the model-minority myth to be toxic in so many ways. Here's one thing I can attest to personally: we're not all East Asians. I grew up in section-8 housing, then moved next to a meth house raided by the FBI, attended vocational schools in the inner city where I had friends killed and imprisoned, personally had a gun pointed at me, twice, slept on a sofa my entire childhood, in a dysfunctional bankrupt abus…

So you went from high diverse place to one of most NON diverse place and you are happy? [1]

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_ranked_by_et...

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