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The Feminine Physique: On Women's Bodybuilding

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Re: The Feminine Physique: On Women's Bodybuilding

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Post by kridsdale1 »

SuoDuanDao wrote: post #334
randycupertino wrote: post #245

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As a heterosexual female, Matt Bomer is the height of peak male attractiveness. I'd say Charlize Theron would be tops for females. Pewdiepie - ha. I actually find him repulsive, but you are right it's the personality - too loud, too awkward, too ... zany. I think I'd find that offputting in a female as well.

Interesting, Theron is certainly an example of someone whose attractiveness I've mostly heard affirmed by people not sexually attracted to women - there seem to be a fair number of people who possess what we might call beauty without much in the way of sex appeal. What's strange is how unconsciously we'll imagine that someone is highly desired without ever encountering a reality check.

Agree. She has all the metrics (symmetry, blonde, tall, in shape) and yet she does nothing for me at all. She activates the sense in me of "That is like my mom: Female but not a sex object".

As I get older the more I come to terms with the most attractive women being those who Hollywood never tried to push on me: slightly thick, introverted, and grumpy.

Re: The Feminine Physique: On Women's Bodybuilding

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Post by kridsdale1 »

linspace wrote: post #287
samatman wrote: post #134

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We could ask this question about almost every substance which has been declared illegal. Indeed, we should. I don't use androgenic steroids, but I'm right on the cliff where natural levels start falling off, and once I'm over it, I will give it some serious consideration.

I don't discard also using them in the future to some extent slow aging effects but it's hard to find good info.

The Reddit community's Wiki is very good.

https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/index

Re: The Feminine Physique: On Women's Bodybuilding

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Post by kridsdale1 »

falcor84 wrote: post #310
porb121 wrote: post #280

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you can be killed by ways other than homicide

What approaches do you have in mind? War? Government enforced famine? Selling me cheap cigarettes? Something else? And how much will bodybuilding help me avoid getting killed by these?

Falling down the stairs at 80 years old will kill someone who spent 80 years sedentary vs an 80 year old yoked grandpa

Re: The Feminine Physique: On Women's Bodybuilding

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Post by jfengel »

kridsdale1 wrote: post #338
robocat wrote: post #218

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> you'll get plenty of attention But qualitatively different attention IMHO. Great looking guy with zero personality: shallow attention e.g. one-night stands or pure accessory. Ugly guy with great personality: veer towards long-term relationships or maybe friend-zoning.

This is a lot more incel-y than I am accustomed to seeing on HackerNews.

I see a lot of incel-y talk on HN. Some of it seems predicated on Silicon Valley as a gold rush town, with men outnumbering women ten to one and the women taking that in a mercenary opportunity. Almost any discussion of dating will turn up a lot of such views.

Re: The Feminine Physique: On Women's Bodybuilding

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Post by randycupertino »

kridsdale1 wrote: post #341
SuoDuanDao wrote: post #334

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Interesting, Theron is certainly an example of someone whose attractiveness I've mostly heard affirmed by people not sexually attracted to women - there seem to be a fair number of people who possess what we might call beauty without much in the way of sex appeal. What's strange is how unconsciously we'll imagine that someone is highly desired without ever encountering a reality check.

Agree. She has all the metrics (symmetry, blonde, tall, in shape) and yet she does nothing for me at all. She activates the sense in me of "That is like my mom: Female but not a sex object". As I get older the more I come to terms with the most attractive women being those who Hollywood never tried to push on me: slightly thick, introverted, and grumpy.

ha! I think we're a love match but sorry not on the market :)

Re: The Feminine Physique: On Women's Bodybuilding

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Post by pvaldes »

RealityVoid wrote: post #146
actuator wrote: post #71

Except for winning competitions, is there any natural advantage of bodybuilding for both men and women? For both, for advantage in most sports and attractiveness the typical calisthenics physique, sort of gymnast/football(soccer) one seems like the ideal one to me, yet a lot of people seem to be obsessed with getting overly buff.

Strong people are harder to kill and more usefull in general.

Fast people are harder to kill. Many short and fast people are fearsome opponents in karate kumite for example. Strong and big people are often also slow... but it depends on the motivation. Everybody can be killed in a lot of ways, sadly.

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Post by Blikkentrekker »

ThrowawayR2 wrote: post #319
Blikkentrekker wrote: post #103

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To mark a comment as dead, only one user needs to flag it, I believe. All it takes is one user to disagree enough. I've had upvoted comments flagged because there was one user who disagreed enough with it and it was about controversial issues.

[dead] usually means the user themselves deleted it, I think. I flag spam comments routinely and it definitely takes more than one user flag to get a comment to the [flagged] state where text is hidden.

Maybe more flag it then if the opinion be sufficiently controversial.

It was upvoted, however, but it's probably because it's a polarizing opinion that some very much agree with, and others very much dislike.

Re: The Feminine Physique: On Women's Bodybuilding

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Post by Blikkentrekker »

watwut wrote: post #323
Blikkentrekker wrote: post #316

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But the politicians aren't banning overweight models, only underweight models. I'm sure these same politicians have medical advisors, who advised them against using b.m.i. and also pointed out what I said here.

> I'm sure these same politicians have medical advisors, who advised them against using b.m.i. and also pointed out what I said here. Body builders, especially female body builders were completely irrelevant to discussion about fashion models. They were not the ones who were ever shown in those magazines. In terms of body shape, they are not actually thin despite having low fat. Female body builders are not contempor…

And why do you suddenly bring gender politics into an issue that never had them?

Many magazines feature body builders, whatever their sex be, that have a body fat percentage that is very unhealthy and were it not for the muscles to move their mass up, the fat percentage alone would give them a rather low b.m.i. if they had average muscles.

I do not see how their sex is relevant for the politician's stated goal of promoting health.

If their desire would be to only promote female health, male health be damned, then they should have said so, which they obviously never did, as that would raise quite the eyebrows.

But their real desire was, as said, simply to ban models whom they find particularly ugly, and “health” is simply an excuse, as it often is. — the very same reason why arbitrarily alcohol is quite legal in many jurisdictions where other drugs are banned for “health concerns”.

So many unhealthy things are perfectly legal almost everywhere that I find any politician who claims to do it for the health dubious by default. — it is nothing more than a rationalization to justify his moral and fashion control.

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Post by b0rsuk »

DoreenMichele wrote: post #306
vidarh wrote: post #301

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> "I dress for women. I undress for men." A good demonstration of this can be showcased pretty heavily in the difference between how women are dressed in women's magazines vs. in magazines targeting men - whatever their state of undress.

Many years ago, I read some article about some guy who was seeing two women and the two women found out about each other. Neither woman dumped him. Neither woman gave him an ultimatum of "It's me or her!" No, both of them began dressing completely differently and the brunet dyed her hair blonde and the blonde dyed her hair red. They both had this internal script that said "The way you win a man is with looks, by god!…

They behaved exactly as red pill proponents say. According to that line of thinking, a man popular with ladies is more attractive and they are more happy sharing a high status man than having a lesser man all for themselves.

Of course, this is just an anecdote and cases like this are more likely to stick in our memory. You be the judge.

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Post by orasis »

Lopiolis wrote: post #209
Aerroon wrote: post #207

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> In my job, in foreign-language education, I think a lot about what motivates some adults to keep studying long and hard enough to become proficient in a foreign language, as relatively few actually succeed. I'm not sure I would compare something like bodybuilding with foreign languages. At some point you become proficient enough in a language that you can simply consume movies, TV shows, books, news etc that the la…

> Exercise requires persistence. You can't really have gaps in it, because you lose your progress. Well, maintaining your current level of strength is far easier to do than maintaining continuous progress (especially at more advanced stages, which you have to do a lot of fuckery around programming/scheduling in order to realize any progress at all). You just can't do nothing , but the same goes for languages. If you…

Concur. I worked out quite haphazardly during the last 9 months and have maintained most of my strength.
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