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Re: GitHub: Block the Bullies

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Firstly, I called you a name that I now regret. It was a juvenile move and it was said in a moment of anger. I really do apologize. Should I delete the comment? Secondly, I'm not criticizing you for standing up for yourself. Don't try to frame this as if you're a poor victim of the internet. This is a discussion forum. I'm not an anonymous troll, my identity is in my profile. You dramatized things in the first place,…

what made you so angry that you reverted to behaving childishly? that seems like an oddly strong reaction to this thread? Given that you responded in such a dramatic fashion to something that genuinely didn't involve you in any way whatsoever, why are you criticizing Zed for reacting strongly to a far greater provocation?

I'm still trying to figure this out myself.

I think it's just built up over time. I've never met Zed. I don't quite understand how he's built such a following -- it's quite possible it's because he's a nice guy who helps people. It strikes me from what I've read by him and about him that this SEEMS unlikely, but again, I do not know him.

The opinion that drove my response was that this was a monstrous waste of resources for github. Zed has influence and his blog post provoked a reaction that was unnecessary. We don't know how widespread this problem is on github. This is the first time I, or anybody I've spoken with, has even heard of anyone having this problem. Running a startup (I imagine), especially one with as much success as github, is almost certainly incredibly difficult. Reading a blog post rant by someone with influence has got to be a real bitch. And they handled it with grace and patience. Which is more than I can say about myself and Zed.

Re: GitHub: Block the Bullies

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Oh look, another anonymous troll that has exactly the same validity and standing as my comment. This place is awesome with the anonymous posters.

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He must realize his "loud" persona is what brings out the trolls that he so often complains about, so I'm going to guess that yes, it's calculated. Turn off the persona, ignore the trolls, and the trolls will go away.

Re: GitHub: Block the Bullies

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Background: http://sheddingbikes.com/posts/1306816425.html In all fairness, the guy was being a dick (no pun intended) to Zed. However, Zed should have kept the insults to the troll and left Github, Powerset, Engine Yard, and the Ruby community out.

How does anyone in the Ruby "community" have the time to get any actual work done? No other language community in the world behaves like this.

The same way the Open Source "community" has time to get actual work done - real developers do it while the trolls mess around.

Re: GitHub: Block the Bullies

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As it stands, when you are added as a collaborator to a project it shows up in exactly one place — your private, logged in dashboard. It doesn't show up publicly anywhere. You must make a contribution to a project before you show up in any kind of public fashion.

Wouldn't it be possible for the troll to temporarily set his username to the same as yours in his git config, make a few commits, and then push them, thereby making it look like you had made a contribution to the project? Would this make your "membership" in the project appear publicly? Or does Github track pushes by the pusher's Github username?

I think it tracks everything with the public key that you use to push to github. The username will look the same, but will not be linked to your account.

Re: GitHub: Block the Bullies

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Try this on for size: http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/ruby/rails/is-a-ghetto

Only 10% of the ruby on rails community who had to admit the entire platform was based on lies hates me for that. The rest of the world is glad I wrote it.

May be before putting all your blames on a open source community, you should have studied a little bit of social-anthropology.

You see, if you had involved deeply with any hot new tech community, like node.js, instead of Rails, you would have had the same problem with that community.

Re: GitHub: Block the Bullies

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what made you so angry that you reverted to behaving childishly? that seems like an oddly strong reaction to this thread? Given that you responded in such a dramatic fashion to something that genuinely didn't involve you in any way whatsoever, why are you criticizing Zed for reacting strongly to a far greater provocation?

I'm still trying to figure this out myself. I think it's just built up over time. I've never met Zed. I don't quite understand how he's built such a following -- it's quite possible it's because he's a nice guy who helps people. It strikes me from what I've read by him and about him that this SEEMS unlikely, but again, I do not know him. The opinion that drove my response was that this was a monstrous waste of resour…

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Re: GitHub: Block the Bullies

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what made you so angry that you reverted to behaving childishly? that seems like an oddly strong reaction to this thread? Given that you responded in such a dramatic fashion to something that genuinely didn't involve you in any way whatsoever, why are you criticizing Zed for reacting strongly to a far greater provocation?

I'm still trying to figure this out myself. I think it's just built up over time. I've never met Zed. I don't quite understand how he's built such a following -- it's quite possible it's because he's a nice guy who helps people. It strikes me from what I've read by him and about him that this SEEMS unlikely, but again, I do not know him. The opinion that drove my response was that this was a monstrous waste of resour…

> I don't quite understand how he's built such a following

Possibly by releasing some pretty cool stuff? You've heard of Mongrel, right?

> a monstrous waste of resources for github

Can you quantify how much resource github wasted in implementing a reasonably useful feature?

Re: GitHub: Block the Bullies

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what made you so angry that you reverted to behaving childishly? that seems like an oddly strong reaction to this thread? Given that you responded in such a dramatic fashion to something that genuinely didn't involve you in any way whatsoever, why are you criticizing Zed for reacting strongly to a far greater provocation?

I'm still trying to figure this out myself. I think it's just built up over time. I've never met Zed. I don't quite understand how he's built such a following -- it's quite possible it's because he's a nice guy who helps people. It strikes me from what I've read by him and about him that this SEEMS unlikely, but again, I do not know him. The opinion that drove my response was that this was a monstrous waste of resour…

I am pretty sure that you are overplaying the 'poor github bullied by Zed' angle.
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