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Re: GitHub: Block the Bullies

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Post by wazoox »

rimantas wrote: post #59
zedshaw wrote: post #49

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> If Zed hadn't written a blog post detailing how he fucked everything up (in all his greatness, apparently) it wouldn't have gotten such exposure and would likely have died out. Can you explain where in my blog post I claim I'm great? I think all I did was explain what was happening and how this was someone who bothered me in the past and followed me to github, and then there was nothing I could do about it.

> Can you explain where in my blog post I claim I'm great? Maybe people still remember this: http://web.archive.org/web/20090218021137/http://zedshaw.com... Sure you try to mask it as an attempt to be funny, but even if "it’s all an act" that acts make the person. Now I am off to http://bellard.org/ to clean my mind a bit.

Come on, admit that Zed is funny with style. He's bragging, too, but it's never condescending. That's the difference between a gentleman and dandy, and an ugly troll.

Re: GitHub: Block the Bullies

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Post by zedshaw »

endlessvoid94 wrote: post #54
zedshaw wrote: post #49

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> If Zed hadn't written a blog post detailing how he fucked everything up (in all his greatness, apparently) it wouldn't have gotten such exposure and would likely have died out. Can you explain where in my blog post I claim I'm great? I think all I did was explain what was happening and how this was someone who bothered me in the past and followed me to github, and then there was nothing I could do about it.

I guess I figured it was implied. With your influence, you totally could've emailed the github guys and voice your concerns privately. Instead, you chose to do your own thing and publicize it and how awesomely you pwned the dude. And then you claimed it was all to improve the github experience. Cmon.

So, you basically were stirring up drama by exaggerating what I said for effect, yet I'm the drama queen and attention whore.

Next time, actually read what I write instead of just imagining you read it after seeing a stream of tweets and your buddies on reddit tell it to you 4th person in some comments. For example, I didn't contact github because I knew one of the peole working there was in on the joke. If you read what I wrote you would have known that, idiot.

Re: GitHub: Block the Bullies

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Post by endlessvoid94 »

zedshaw wrote: post #60
endlessvoid94 wrote: post #56

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Wow, dude. Chill out. I'd be MORE than happy to meet up and grab a beer with you. I've been to ONE meetup in the city, and aftewords someone mentioned you were there. Jesus. EDIT: Just sent you an email, hopefully it went to the right place. Couldn't find one on your website or your HN profile (or your twitter account).

Chill out? You just called me a whore douchebag. Now you want to buy me a beer? You see, this is what pisses me off about you whiners claiming I'm stirring up drama. I didn't say a damn thing to you until you started insulting me in these comments. I didn't say a damn thing to you. The only contact I've had with you is one tweet. Yet, here you are insulting me as if you know me personally and I've treated you poorly.…

Firstly, I called you a name that I now regret. It was a juvenile move and it was said in a moment of anger. I really do apologize. Should I delete the comment?

Secondly, I'm not criticizing you for standing up for yourself. Don't try to frame this as if you're a poor victim of the internet. This is a discussion forum. I'm not an anonymous troll, my identity is in my profile.

You dramatized things in the first place, not by standing up for yourself. The beer offer still stands.

Re: GitHub: Block the Bullies

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Post by [deleted] »

zedshaw wrote: post #62
endlessvoid94 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess I figured it was implied. With your influence, you totally could've emailed the github guys and voice your concerns privately. Instead, you chose to do your own thing and publicize it and how awesomely you pwned the dude. And then you claimed it was all to improve the github experience. Cmon.

So, you basically were stirring up drama by exaggerating what I said for effect, yet I'm the drama queen and attention whore. Next time, actually read what I write instead of just imagining you read it after seeing a stream of tweets and your buddies on reddit tell it to you 4th person in some comments. For example, I didn't contact github because I knew one of the peole working there was in on the joke. If you read…

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Re: GitHub: Block the Bullies

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Post by zedshaw »

cipherpunk wrote: post #45
jonursenbach wrote: post #30

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I never understood why people absolutely loathe Zed Shaw.

Try this on for size: http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/ruby/rails/is-a-ghetto

Only 10% of the ruby on rails community who had to admit the entire platform was based on lies hates me for that.

The rest of the world is glad I wrote it.

Re: GitHub: Block the Bullies

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Post by [deleted] »

zedshaw wrote: post #57
redthrowaway wrote: post #35

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I don't actively loathe him, but the persona he spends so much time cultivating is brash and irritating. It seems whenever I see his name mentioned, it's because he's making a stink about something, rather than doing something useful. I get that he does useful things, and LPtHW is apparently a great resource, but he (intentionally) attracts far more attention with his antics than his works. The court jester may make…

Oh look, another anonymous troll that has exactly the same validity and standing as my comment. This place is awesome with the anonymous posters.

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Re: GitHub: Block the Bullies

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Post by gaius »

jz wrote: post #26

Background: http://sheddingbikes.com/posts/1306816425.html In all fairness, the guy was being a dick (no pun intended) to Zed. However, Zed should have kept the insults to the troll and left Github, Powerset, Engine Yard, and the Ruby community out.

How does anyone in the Ruby "community" have the time to get any actual work done?

No other language community in the world behaves like this.

Re: GitHub: Block the Bullies

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Post by overcyn »

zedshaw wrote: post #48
mycroftiv wrote: post #3

This is a very good feature, but I am also afraid it will make Zed Shaw and others think that his attempt to out-troll the trolls and multiply internet drama was a force for positive change. "If you throw a big enough temper tantrum and incite a large enough shitstorm, developers will address your concerns" is an unfortunate precedent. The fact that controversy and negativity attracts eyeballs and can trigger improve…

I love how you're this paragon of stoic virtue, and I'm a drama queen, yet, here you are talking about it even more instead of ignoring it and going back to whatever it was you were doing.

Theres a difference between discussing the concept of "internet drama" and actually creating "internet drama". Mycroftiv is doing the former whereas you do the latter.

Re: GitHub: Block the Bullies

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Post by ctide »

overcyn wrote: post #68
zedshaw wrote: post #48

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I love how you're this paragon of stoic virtue, and I'm a drama queen, yet, here you are talking about it even more instead of ignoring it and going back to whatever it was you were doing.

Theres a difference between discussing the concept of "internet drama" and actually creating "internet drama". Mycroftiv is doing the former whereas you do the latter.

You do realize that discussing internet drama is what spurs people to create internet drama, right?

Re: GitHub: Block the Bullies

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Post by rycole »

zedshaw wrote: post #62
endlessvoid94 wrote: post #54

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I guess I figured it was implied. With your influence, you totally could've emailed the github guys and voice your concerns privately. Instead, you chose to do your own thing and publicize it and how awesomely you pwned the dude. And then you claimed it was all to improve the github experience. Cmon.

So, you basically were stirring up drama by exaggerating what I said for effect, yet I'm the drama queen and attention whore. Next time, actually read what I write instead of just imagining you read it after seeing a stream of tweets and your buddies on reddit tell it to you 4th person in some comments. For example, I didn't contact github because I knew one of the peole working there was in on the joke. If you read…

You sure do enjoy referring to yourself as a queen, don't you? Hrm.
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