Hmmm many years ago I was wishful thinking about this very box [1]. This is gonna be a fun week playing with and testing it.
FreedomBox: Run your digital services from your home
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Re: FreedomBox: Run your digital services from your home
#32Re: FreedomBox: Run your digital services from your home
#33Cloudron.io is by far the most developed homelab in a box kit. Worth a look!
So $15 or $30/month to self-host? What are the benefits?
For me paying $15/$30 a month for the ability to self-host is ridiculous (I'd consider it if it was 10 times less, just for the conenience of 1-click installs).
However, when you need to install a more complex app like Taiga, it's often simpler to use the free Cloudron account to do it rather than install it by hand.
Re: FreedomBox: Run your digital services from your home
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
While I agree I'm not sure about building trust in my home IP. Won't you be flagged as spam?
Cloudron also has a full email stack ready to go, however you are totally right about the residential IPs. They are basically all blacklisted by default, which is also why we had to add easy relay-provider support.
> They are basically all blacklisted by default, which is also why we had to add easy relay-provider support.
While I understand why people are doing this, I believe it's not the right way to deal with the problem - basically we're handing over e-mail (as a service) to a few big corps. Each time I have this problem I go through the long and painstaking process of whitelisting the IP and fight to make it work. Usually having it work with Gmail, Yahoo and Microsoft is enough - many smaller orgs don't use balcklisting by default because they have enough problems with mail deliverability already.
Re: FreedomBox: Run your digital services from your home
#35Cloudron.io is by far the most developed homelab in a box kit. Worth a look!
So $15 or $30/month to self-host? What are the benefits?
I tried the demo a few months ago and decided to give it a shot this weekend, and I'm pretty happy so far. These are some things that drew me to it:
Dozens of actively maintained deployments of (mostly) popular open source apps, a functional multi-user system with app SSO and ACS where possible, an integrated email server, multiple app instances, easy encrypted backup configuration to off-site s3/b2/nas/etc, simple automatic backup and retention policies, restore/clone down to a per-app basis, broad and deep documentation, complete published api, active forum
There is a recent thread on the forum where a few users espoused their reasons: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/4372/what-are-you-favourite-...
Re: FreedomBox: Run your digital services from your home
#36Not my preferred setup but I hope products like this help people get into "homelabbing" and self-hosting more of their stuff.
What's your preferred setup?
Also not parent poster but I got into the homelab fever and back it, I just have a very beefy desktop where I run thousands of services on it. Its not like one of these people are running a critical enterprise operation in their living room.
Re: FreedomBox: Run your digital services from your home
#37Not my preferred setup but I hope products like this help people get into "homelabbing" and self-hosting more of their stuff.
What's your preferred setup?
Not the parent but I also do not prefer this setup, my preferred setup is setting everything up manually so I know exactly what is going on. It also allows for better debugging, flexibility and understanding of the software. It's also a great learning opportunity since I've learnt how different pieces of software come together but for most people freedom box is good as it's relatively quick and easy to setup.
Re: FreedomBox: Run your digital services from your home
#38There's also yunohost which is pretty much along the same lines: https://yunohost.org/
To add to the list there's also Sandstorm: https://sandstorm.io
Re: FreedomBox: Run your digital services from your home
#39There's also yunohost which is pretty much along the same lines: https://yunohost.org/
And also FLAP, my personal project: https://gitlab.com/flap-box/flap
Re: FreedomBox: Run your digital services from your home
#40Email service would be cool to have on this
SMTP is among the things I wouldn't self host. Chances are your entire ISP is already blacklisted for some reason and mail ports are blocked. You'd have to create a relay host on some cloud provider and secure it to avoid having an open relay then navigate through all the configurations related to spam and malware filtering, gray lists, DNS registers and so on.
Dealing with mail servers is the only thing I don't miss from my classic sysadmin days. Although it should be noted popular MTA software nowadays are really solid software.