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Re: Don't Offer a Free Plan

#41
At https://serpapi.com, we are actually aiming for the reverse. We don’t have a free plan at the moment only free trials with credit card validations and are going to introduce a small free plan soon-ish.

3 big arguments for a free plan from our perspective: Ease for marketing, allow Enterprise users to try out when giving up credit card info is a process for them, and lower Stripe dispute rates.

Re: Don't Offer a Free Plan

#42
Depends who you're targeting with the paid plans, I think।

The OP sort of addresses this in 'won't I miss out on paid users', but it's sort of a cop-out/has some unmentioned assumptions। Anyone small wants to start off free and pay more as their usage (and own revenue) grows - enterprise may be willing to pay hundreds per month off the bat, sure, but are they your customer?

Re: Don't Offer a Free Plan

#43

Anecdata: Trello and Jira both have free plans that I used that caused me to recommend them for paid usage at multiple companies I’ve worked with. Those free plans resulted in $xx-$xxxx monthly subscriptions. Asana has a paid plan with a 5-user minimum limit. I never bothered to even try it since I wouldn’t have the extended time to play with it. As a result it never even got mentioned to companies I’ve worked with.…

I think trials can be improved for services where you can discern whether the user is directly interacting with it. You give them 100 days of usage, and then decrement a counter when they interact with the site the first time each day.

Re: Don't Offer a Free Plan

#44

I don’t really understand why this gets a domain name instead of being a blog post. I read it feeling like this was the result of some collaboration or consortium trying to ask myself if the author might have something to gain from it, when really it seems to just be the work of one person. But maybe it is good to have an entire domain for some reason.

A domain name is ~$10/y. If you have a concept that you want to be able to link people to, it's more than I would pay, but I could see it being worth it.

(In many ways I prefer the opposite: by hanging everything off of jefftk.com people who come for one post or project may find others of mine they like.)

Re: Don't Offer a Free Plan

#45

It is sad but true that users that pay less, or zero, are more demanding on customer support and make unreasonable demands via social. Had a guy this week using our free product that has 90% of the paid products features berating us on Twitter for not being 100% free and demanding we convert and rely on donations to support our 40 person team. Makes me regret having a free offering. In my 20 years doing software star…

The article says, "Counter-intuitively, the less the user pays the more likely they are to need your help", but that's not so counter-intuitive if you invert it.

Cheap users tend to be inexpert users. Expert users who really value your offering enough to pay more are those who understand why it's worth the money. They likely understand the problem or use that your work addresses, and they have enough knowledge to know which knobs to turn to use your product and be aware of the limits of what it can and should do.

A cheap user is more likely to be one who isn't very savvy, doesn't understand the scope and limitations of your product, and thus thinks it should solve more problems than it does, or to put it another way, 'be a dessert topping AND a floor wax'

Re: Don't Offer a Free Plan

#46
I run deadmansswitch.net, and the free plan there only lets you send messages after two days, when people generally prefer much longer intervals.

This serves as a time-unlimited trial that lets you try the product before upgrading, and if some people are fine with super short periods, good for them. It's worked out very well.

Re: Don't Offer a Free Plan

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“ demanding we convert and rely on donations” People whining for more is fairly normal. Wanting it for everyone in perpetuity is new. Does everyone think most businesses are somehow ad supported?

> Does everyone think most businesses are somehow ad supported? Not necessarily ads, but they might assume most businesses will monetize whatever info they get their hands on however they can. Especially so for free offerings ("you are the product" etc.).

The "you are the product" assumption alone is probably the strongest reason to never offer a free service.

Re: Don't Offer a Free Plan

#48
post #32

A lot of what I use (including as a paying user), I use because I was able to start on a free tier and then upgrade as my needs grew. DaVinci Resolve, Sublime Text, GSuite, WeTransfer, Dropbox, iCloud, Sequel Pro, etc. I didn't try Premier, Final Cut, various text editors or paid-only cloud services.

The article talks about the costs, suggesting the net result is often bad. Basically they are saying, "Ignore end users online because they are only seeing and talking about one half of the equation."

All you've done is essentially say, "I'm an end user online who only knows one half of the equation but you should ignore costs!"

It just feels like a failure to engage with the point the article is actually making.

Re: Don't Offer a Free Plan

#49

Anecdata: Trello and Jira both have free plans that I used that caused me to recommend them for paid usage at multiple companies I’ve worked with. Those free plans resulted in $xx-$xxxx monthly subscriptions. Asana has a paid plan with a 5-user minimum limit. I never bothered to even try it since I wouldn’t have the extended time to play with it. As a result it never even got mentioned to companies I’ve worked with.…

The article specifically mentions free trial periods as being a good idea.

Time is not free. If it's too expensive that I won't use it for my own projects, I'm not going to even bother with a free trial. Same if you don't tell me your price up front, I'm not going to bother with the free trial. Tools that will get recommended at my workplace are more likely to be the ones that I use for my own side projects, since I already know them and they will allow me to move fast. And the tools I use at home are more likely to be the free/cheap ones than the expensive ones.

Of course specifics and circumstances matters. If a tool is critical for the business then we will review everything in depth and pick the best, regardless of trial/free plan/etc. And of course, sometimes the critical task is simply to ship ASAP...

Re: Don't Offer a Free Plan

#50

This is a great movement, and I hope it gets some traction. A lot of damage has been caused by setting an expectation for software consumers that they should never have to pay for anything.

I agree, free has extremely devalued software. I think though, refactoring his idea, a “trial subscription” for whatever, 3, 6, 12 months at a sweet price with the option to continue at the regular price.

I think author’s opinion about subscription fatigue is low-end market thinking or B2C. Most businesses actually making money are used to the subscription model now, Gsuite, Office 365, Adobe Creative Suite, NetSuite, etc. The trick there is to reduce the risk for them to try it on. Unless you want to pay an army of salespeople.

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