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The Downside to Life in a Supertall Tower: Leaks, Creaks, Breaks

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Re: The Downside to Life in a Supertall Tower: Leaks, Creaks, Breaks

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I get conflicted feelings about this. On the one hand it's highly unlikely anyone in that tower would get a shred of empathy from the common man (and highly unlikely this is even one of their 5 other homes), but on the other it's just a damn shame that some of the most prominent landmarks in the greatest city in the world are crappy places to live at. I'm not of the opinion they're eyesores - the nyc Skyline was stag…

> the nyc Skyline was stagnant for decades until these needles came in.

Maybe it's time to embrace the future and replace these with arcologies.

Re: The Downside to Life in a Supertall Tower: Leaks, Creaks, Breaks

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Noise is what turns me off from high rise residential buildings. When you watch the construction, many don’t event have concrete walls between apartments on the same floor, and I am ready to guess the concrete floors are as thin as required to keep the weight of the structure down. Add to that all-glass external walls, and I only heard stories from friends who live there that you hear everything your neighbours do, p…

The noise, the lack of ventilation design, and if it isn't "bomb" like use of the trash chute it's someone tossing a bag in that gets caught and blocks it.

They may as well be gilded jail cells. Worse, because everyone's stuck as a renter, there's inherently no true sense of community or consideration to neighbors.

Re: The Downside to Life in a Supertall Tower: Leaks, Creaks, Breaks

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post #4

I get conflicted feelings about this. On the one hand it's highly unlikely anyone in that tower would get a shred of empathy from the common man (and highly unlikely this is even one of their 5 other homes), but on the other it's just a damn shame that some of the most prominent landmarks in the greatest city in the world are crappy places to live at. I'm not of the opinion they're eyesores - the nyc Skyline was stag…

Also see the Millennium Tower in San Francisco which is sinking and leaning. They built it on unstable ground without a sufficiently deep foundation.

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post #8

Noise is what turns me off from high rise residential buildings. When you watch the construction, many don’t event have concrete walls between apartments on the same floor, and I am ready to guess the concrete floors are as thin as required to keep the weight of the structure down. Add to that all-glass external walls, and I only heard stories from friends who live there that you hear everything your neighbours do, p…

Depends on the apartment and when it was built - you can do good or bad noise insulation. Live in a condo and never hear anyone on my floor, and once a month maybe? Sorta hear someone above me. Windows closed I head nothing from outside

Agreed, live on the 37th floor of a 45 floor building - it's not exactly high by these standards, but still decently high. Never hear side neighbours, every now and then I hear something quiet from upstairs.

I used to rent here, the owner was selling, so we bought it instead of moving.

Re: The Downside to Life in a Supertall Tower: Leaks, Creaks, Breaks

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post #14
post #4

I get conflicted feelings about this. On the one hand it's highly unlikely anyone in that tower would get a shred of empathy from the common man (and highly unlikely this is even one of their 5 other homes), but on the other it's just a damn shame that some of the most prominent landmarks in the greatest city in the world are crappy places to live at. I'm not of the opinion they're eyesores - the nyc Skyline was stag…

Also see the Millennium Tower in San Francisco which is sinking and leaning. They built it on unstable ground without a sufficiently deep foundation.

Could have taken some hints from the Italians...

Re: The Downside to Life in a Supertall Tower: Leaks, Creaks, Breaks

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Noise is what turns me off from high rise residential buildings. When you watch the construction, many don’t event have concrete walls between apartments on the same floor, and I am ready to guess the concrete floors are as thin as required to keep the weight of the structure down. Add to that all-glass external walls, and I only heard stories from friends who live there that you hear everything your neighbours do, p…

I’ve lived in high-rise buildings in Seattle where the walls were effectively soundproof. Your neighbors could be as loud as they wanted to be and you never heard them. It took some heavy crashes on the floors above for you to hear the dull thud. Quality of construction matters a lot. Making apartment buildings highly insulated sound-wise is old science, not magic.

Re: The Downside to Life in a Supertall Tower: Leaks, Creaks, Breaks

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post #4

I get conflicted feelings about this. On the one hand it's highly unlikely anyone in that tower would get a shred of empathy from the common man (and highly unlikely this is even one of their 5 other homes), but on the other it's just a damn shame that some of the most prominent landmarks in the greatest city in the world are crappy places to live at. I'm not of the opinion they're eyesores - the nyc Skyline was stag…

interesting. from the article

> making clear that even multimillion-dollar price tags do not guarantee problem-free living

this reiterates that you can make a living simply catering to wealthy people's problems instead of dismissing them

pick and choose your battles

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