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Ford Makes $29B Commitment to Electric and Self-Driving Cars

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Re: Ford Makes $29B Commitment to Electric and Self-Driving Cars

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Well, yeah. Any sane large car manufacturer knows that you have to make at least a good line of EVs in the near future, otherwise your company is dead.

By the by, it’s generally believed that Ford poured money into Rivian with the plan to turn their vehicles into electric trucks.

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The patterns only going to become more pronounced from here on out. My guess is that we’re going to See a electric bulbs style phase out of gasoline engines announced over the next two years. If I’m Ford or GM I’m gonna try and get my hands on some of that sweet sweet tesla speculation cash in the form of a buy out as quickly as possible. Solves the technology platform problems too. If VW couldn’t handle it, why do you think GM or Ford could?

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I really love the F-150 and it's size, but I don't need all the power it comes with and would love it to be a little more fuel efficient. I realize the coming hybrid model is going to be a fortune more than the non hybrid, but I am curious how expensive an all-electric model will be.

Re: Ford Makes $29B Commitment to Electric and Self-Driving Cars

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The patterns only going to become more pronounced from here on out. My guess is that we’re going to See a electric bulbs style phase out of gasoline engines announced over the next two years. If I’m Ford or GM I’m gonna try and get my hands on some of that sweet sweet tesla speculation cash in the form of a buy out as quickly as possible. Solves the technology platform problems too. If VW couldn’t handle it, why do y…

The chances that Tesla will buy out a legacy auto company are zero. It makes no sense. They are all saddled with crushing debt loads, dealer networks, and stranded assets. None of them have anything Tesla needs to become the largest car manufacturer in history by 2030.

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It seems like I’ve seen this movie before. A large automotive consortium puts out an optimistic press release announcing its full commitment to EVs https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1086902_volkswagen-will...

Then it turns out that the primary cost contributor to an EV is the cost of batteries. Automakers being relative nobodies on the lithium market, they are paying retail for it and passing the mark-ups to you, the consumer.

At that point compromises must be made, and the announced vehicles advertise either an unimpressive range or some atrocious price sticker or both. The market compares the $/mile-of-total-tange, at which point Tesla emerges as being fairly competitive on price.

The large company discontinues the vehicle lineup, citing overrun cost issues and market disinterest for EVs save for a few Tesla fanboy diehards.

Re: Ford Makes $29B Commitment to Electric and Self-Driving Cars

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EVs make sense but at this point self driving cars are fantasy vaporware. Executives should be tired of embarrassing themselves in public with grand pronouncements of “just 6 more months!” by this point.

Fantasy vaporware that I still routinely see driving past my house.

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post #5

I really love the F-150 and it's size, but I don't need all the power it comes with and would love it to be a little more fuel efficient. I realize the coming hybrid model is going to be a fortune more than the non hybrid, but I am curious how expensive an all-electric model will be.

The CyberTruck starts at $39,900. Ford has to be in that ballpark to compete if they want to remain a going concern.

Re: Ford Makes $29B Commitment to Electric and Self-Driving Cars

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post #9
post #5

I really love the F-150 and it's size, but I don't need all the power it comes with and would love it to be a little more fuel efficient. I realize the coming hybrid model is going to be a fortune more than the non hybrid, but I am curious how expensive an all-electric model will be.

The CyberTruck starts at $39,900. Ford has to be in that ballpark to compete if they want to remain a going concern.

Just like the Model 3 is $35k ;)
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