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Google Chrome – Why I Hate It And Continue To Use It

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Re: Google Chrome – Why I Hate It And Continue To Use It

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Post by armored »

nhebb wrote: post #3

For me it's the password manager. I still have Firefox installed to navigate to certain secure sites because Chrome just doesn't seem to remember the passwords. Oh, and Chrome needs a search field on their password form (I've heard they're good at that sort of thing). The font rendering in Chrome must be a Mac compatibility issue because side by side, Chrome renders text much cleaner than FF or IE on Windows. HN on F…

Chrome seems to remember passwords just fine for me on Windows 7. But I don't like the fact that you can't set a master password. Yes, I understand that storing password in the browser is not exactly full of win. So I only use it for non-critical stuff, but I still don't want all that non-critical stuff open to anyone who sits down at my PC. It get's worse if you sync passwords between two devices. When some dude steals your laptop all of a sudden he has easy access to your Facebook, Twitter and HN goodness. Ouch.

Re: Google Chrome – Why I Hate It And Continue To Use It

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Post by natmaster »

Have you tried using Firefox?

Everything you like about Chrome is in Firefox (ok, you'll have to use Firefox 5 beta for the tab closing behavior) if you install two extensions (for the expose and unified search).

Seems like most of the things you hate about Chrome are at least better in Firefox as well. (Though to be fair, they could be a much different experience on a Mac than I am experiencing on Windows.)

Re: Google Chrome – Why I Hate It And Continue To Use It

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Post by boucher »

potatolicious wrote: post #42
ryandvm wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure it's a big deal for you, but surely you understand that this is a feature that only 0.5% of the population cares about. Most people are happy to watch 4:3 television stretched to fit their wide screen TVs and you can't believe that Google hasn't implemented color profiles?

Considering this has been standard is every single browser, major and minor, and Google is the sole standout... yes. And color profiles aren't some obscure thing that only graphics people care about - there are a lot of photos online right now where people look like zombies (or tomatoes) because the embedded profile isn't being accounted for. If you Google for it, there are plenty of complaints from non-techy people…

Well it certainly hasn't been standard for all that long. I do not have dates handy, but I can remember a time in the not too distant past where Safari was the only browser that processed color profiles. It was actually a huge pain in the ass because you'd think something was working correctly and then later realize you hadn't stripped the color profile when you loaded it in Safari.

Re: Google Chrome – Why I Hate It And Continue To Use It

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Post by boucher »

masklinn wrote: post #58

If the only thing you want of Chrome are the improved developer tools, the same tools are in the Webkit nightlies ( http://nightly.webkit.org/ ). The tools UI also does not have issues like broken gradient or draggability

Absolutely not true. The most interesting features in the Web Inspector are Chrome specific, largely because they are V8 specific for the moment.

Re: Google Chrome – Why I Hate It And Continue To Use It

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Post by Yoshino »

carussell wrote: post #55
aerique wrote: post #24

I think the title bar issue is actually more of a window manager issue: I always use Alt+mouse movement[1] which has the added benefit that I don't have to move the pointer over to a special dragging area. I realize this is more of a Unix thing and not necessarily available on OSX. Same goes for resizing in Awesome WM, which is well... awesome: WM key[2] + right mouse button + mouse move to resize. Written down it lo…

> I realize this is more of a Unix thing and not necessarily available on OSX. I bought a Macbook a month ago, and window management being more cumbersome there when compared to properly-configured window managers from the rest of the world of Unix clones is pretty surprising and the third most annoying thing to me about my Macbook experience. (Where the second most annoying thing is the ~half second delay between li…

Fortunately there are a number of utilities that make window management on OS X more tolerable.

Off the top of my head, try looking at Cinch, SizeUp, MondoMouse, or Divvy (there are definitely more out there that I can’t remember). I’ve set MondoMouse so Fn-Shift drags a window, and Fn-Ctrl resizes a window. It really helps.

Sure, these hacks are shareware and aren’t as elegant or infinitely configurable as tiling WMs for X, but they’re pretty close.

Re: Google Chrome – Why I Hate It And Continue To Use It

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Post by carussell »

visural wrote: post #81
carussell wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay. These are all facts with respect to the find UI; yes, the things you say regarding hitting the escape key and the keyboard shortcut to make the find UI reappear—these are all true, factual things. But this isn't a concession. You can say these things, but every one of them is immaterial to point that the find UI, when present, obscures parts of the page , where potentially those parts are functional UI for that…

So? If it doesn't cause a problem... it isn't a problem.

This is another factual statement which is also immaterial to the discussion, in much the same way that "an apple is an apple" is a factual statement, but immaterial here.

If you think that I'd summarize my comment above as, "there's no problem", you've misunderstood.

Re: Google Chrome – Why I Hate It And Continue To Use It

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Post by pdubroy »

memetichazard wrote: post #83

> Massive Preferences List - Looking at that screenshot, the list doesn't seem massive. I seem to recall Firefox (or maybe Opera, this was a while back) having a large grid of options that was several pages long. > Other Bookmarks - I don't have that on my current Chrome. I think this is because this is a folder that comes with the default install - if you go to the bookmarks manager you should be able to remove it.…

The behaviour of the status bubble that he shows in the video is a known bug in the Mac version (http://crbug.com/76590) which should hopefully be fixed soon.

Re: Google Chrome – Why I Hate It And Continue To Use It

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Post by carussell »

akdom wrote: post #89
carussell wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's one detail ignored here. You hint at it when you say that, regarding yourself : > I don't leave the "Find on Page" box open when I'm normally using a page. (emphasis mine) When you have the find UI open and you click on a link within the page, the find UI disappears when it navigates to the new page. This allows you, for example, to open the find UI and use it until you've reached your goal, then promptly dro…

Alright, I can see the case where someone doesn't habitually close it and stumbles upon a site where it is obscuring. It seems rather mild to me, but I guess I could regard that as a UX failing. The only solutions that immediately come to mind: A) Place the "Find on Page" box at the bottom of the window. Advantages: It would get out of the way for the common practice of placing web UI at the top of the viewing pane.…

Another approach could be something that sort of resembles B.

When the find UI opens, it has the same effect as displacing the page, the way full-width find bars do. The difference would be that the UI stays as it is and isn't changed into a full-width find bar. The null space to the left and right of the find bar would still allow whatever it's overlaying to shine through.

The only move to make now is figuring out what happens when the user isn't sufficiently scrolled down far enough, i.e., the null space around the find UI when the user is scrolled to the very top of the page is actually void space. What do you put there? I suggest silently[1] extend the scrollable area of the page by adding a quasi-content area. It's quasi-content because it's not actually part of the page--it's just part of the scrollable area. It pulls its color/background pattern from the page's background style.

Another approach would just be to have the find UI extend into the browser chrome, temporarily shrinking the location bar.

[1] being careful here not to set off any events or changing the way, e.g., event coordinates look to script on the page

Re: Google Chrome – Why I Hate It And Continue To Use It

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Post by carussell »

wickedchicken wrote: post #88

> the effective draggable area in Chrome is a thin 10px strip at the top of the window. Weirdly enough, if you use a tiled window manager ( http://awesome.naquadah.org/ ) this is a feature instead of a detriment. On my netbook pixels really are at a premium and chrome is admirable in its space-saving efforts. I wish they would fix the download bar thing, but they're aware of that and I believe it's a priority for som…

> if you use a tiled window manager... this is a feature instead of a detriment

Isn't it a detriment for tiling WM users, too? Since Chrome tries to eliminate the title bar, it requests for the WM to not put a title bar on it and then tries to fake a smaller, kind-of title bar. So it's still allocating some space--more than any traditional application; since X apps normally leave the title bar drawing up to the WM, traditional apps should have their inner UIs flush with whatever your tiling WM puts around it, while Chrome's still got that sliver.

Re: Google Chrome – Why I Hate It And Continue To Use It

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Post by paxswill »

My biggest peeve with Chrome on OS X is the nonstandard behavior for clicking on the Omnibar. Normally, a single click places the caret, double clicking selects the word, and triple clicking selects the whole field. Chrome reverses this for its bar, and it's jarring me every time I do it. While they explain why they did it, it feels 'wrong' that the majority of the Mac users commenting on the issue [1] were against it, but the UI design team felt it was better.

[1] http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=24349

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