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Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by shim__ »

dheera wrote: post #55
notRobot wrote: post #5

Honestly, nothing holds up to Mullvad [1]. They don't even take an email address while creating accounts, and you can pay easily with Bitcoin or even with cash mailed to them. I'm not affiliated, just a very happy customer. Mullvad is also who Mozilla trusts for the Mozilla VPN [2]. You can sign up with that if you'd like Mozilla to get a cut. [1]: https://mullvad.net/ [2]: https://vpn.mozilla.org/

I totally understand using a VPN service if you're trying to access the internet from another location, e.g. to get past the China firewall or get access to content from a different copyright jurisdiction. However, I don't fully understand the privacy argument. It would seem to be that instead of handing over your entire DNS query history and unencrypted HTTP history to your own corporate IT department or the Starbuc…

I'd say it's probably worse privacy wise, corporate IT or your ISP are at least accountable since you share the same jurisdiction. Some dody VPN company which you should prefer to be overseas if your main objective is piracy is much less accountable in regards to your data.

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by VectorLock »

LordHeini wrote: post #23
s1rech wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are using the network of a hotel or a train station, for instance. Assumption is that you trust that VPN provider of course.

Well https takes care of that. The hotel might be able to see that you visited a certain website but thats about it.

You have now shifted your trust from your VPN provider to certificate authorities.

And, I guess, just ignore anything thats not https.

Or just be okay if your hotel blocks certain ports or destinations, which I've had happen multiple times.

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by eptcyka »

midasuni wrote: post #57
yoz-y wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whereas the VPN provider might do something with your data, your ISP most definitely does .

Does it? I don’t recall giving A&A permission to deal with my data in any nefarious way, i’d doubt they would anyway. https://www.aa.net.uk/

Virgin, who are the only ones who can provide decent speeds at my address most definitely spoof DNS and record traffic.

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by stu2b50 »

hannob wrote: post #74
dheera wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I totally understand using a VPN service if you're trying to access the internet from another location, e.g. to get past the China firewall or get access to content from a different copyright jurisdiction. However, I don't fully understand the privacy argument. It would seem to be that instead of handing over your entire DNS query history and unencrypted HTTP history to your own corporate IT department or the Starbuc…

> However, I don't fully understand the privacy argument. It would seem to be that instead of handing over your entire DNS query history and unencrypted HTTP history to your own corporate IT department or the Starbucks Wi-Fi router, you're now handing over all that data to Mullvad. Well, you're of course right that the privacy argument for VPNs doesn't make a lot of sense. But there's a whole industry living from peo…

VPN ads remind me of supplement ads.

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by swader999 »

tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #54
LordHeini wrote: post #7

Why are these VPNs even a thing? The only reason i would use one is to get cheaper steam keys from brasil and for that i can get a free one. From a security standpoint it is awful because you increase the number of providers you have to trust. Apart from your ISP and the server you connect to, you got a third party involved for no reason. And VPNs can not that trustworhty as shown by the leaks of logs and what not. M…

1) people believing long-outdated guidance about not using open WiFi networks without a VPN 2) protecting your browsing traffic from being observed by your ISP (where you may not have much choice), at the risk of it being observed by the VPN company (which you trust). 3) Torrenting without having to worry about fines, nastygrams and other annoyances 4) Bypassing geoblocking 1 + 2 is what the VPNs advertise, but I thi…

All your clicks getting tracked and sold and resold to the point anyone can know more about you than your wife does.

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by dehrmann »

dheera wrote: post #55
notRobot wrote: post #5

Honestly, nothing holds up to Mullvad [1]. They don't even take an email address while creating accounts, and you can pay easily with Bitcoin or even with cash mailed to them. I'm not affiliated, just a very happy customer. Mullvad is also who Mozilla trusts for the Mozilla VPN [2]. You can sign up with that if you'd like Mozilla to get a cut. [1]: https://mullvad.net/ [2]: https://vpn.mozilla.org/

I totally understand using a VPN service if you're trying to access the internet from another location, e.g. to get past the China firewall or get access to content from a different copyright jurisdiction. However, I don't fully understand the privacy argument. It would seem to be that instead of handing over your entire DNS query history and unencrypted HTTP history to your own corporate IT department or the Starbuc…

> I don't fully understand the privacy argument

It's mostly moot. In the days of HTTPS and DoH, they're essentially selling snake oil. It was a lot more useful in 2010.

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by rasguanabana »

LordHeini wrote: post #23
s1rech wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are using the network of a hotel or a train station, for instance. Assumption is that you trust that VPN provider of course.

Well https takes care of that. The hotel might be able to see that you visited a certain website but thats about it.

Well, http(s) isn’t the only traffic going through network.

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by pault »

kilroy123 wrote: post #99
robinhood wrote: post #90

Happy Private Internet Access user, for years, and I don’t have to deal with this kind of practices.

I've used them for years as well and it seems like they have really gone down hill the last year or so. The iOS app is now unusable for me. Lot's of slow or unresponsive servers now. Just heaps of issues for me.

They were recently partially or wholly purchased. There was a big stink about it because the other company had ties to Israeli intelligence or something. I may be misremembering the details, but I'm to lazy to look it up on my phone. I recently switched from PIA to mullvad and I can definitely recommend it. It feels more transparent to me, and the client app is well done.

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by ev1 »

jorblumesea wrote: post #81

What's the argument for VPNs in 2021? Can't ISP just use metadata patterns and DPI/analytics to tell what you're up to anyways? For example if I want to hide by torrenting, it's not like VPN is going to really help that. ISP should be able to figure that out right? Or am I wrong here? edit: this is a serious question I am not trying to troll anyone here

A correct VPN will make it look like you're just sending garbage traffic to/from one destination, the outside looking in traffic pattern is completely different than a torrent directly (which is many to one + one to many)
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