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Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by namanyayg »

vmception wrote: post #13
notRobot wrote: post #5

Honestly, nothing holds up to Mullvad [1]. They don't even take an email address while creating accounts, and you can pay easily with Bitcoin or even with cash mailed to them. I'm not affiliated, just a very happy customer. Mullvad is also who Mozilla trusts for the Mozilla VPN [2]. You can sign up with that if you'd like Mozilla to get a cut. [1]: https://mullvad.net/ [2]: https://vpn.mozilla.org/

How do they take bitcoin? I’ve seen various invoicing systems that completely break in Tor+JS and in all noJS environments. If they shoehorned bitpay in, its probably not tapping into the utility of having bitcoin payment options. I like paying invoices with Monero over Tor, while the merchant receives bitcoin that a third party pushed to them. I’ve been doing that for at least half a decade. But if I can’t access th…

What third party are you using that does the xmr -> btc for you?

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by VectorLock »

myrandomcomment wrote: post #79
wwwwwwwww wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nowadays its probably best to set up your own VPN server for that. Back when I lived there, most VPNs got occationally blocked, then they would get new IPs and work fine again. But from what I heard, it got way worse since Winnie the Pooh took over.

I am not sure using your own is a good idea. Every time I was in China for the last 3 years they would quickly find and block my small startups VPN. I was able to send an email and ask someone to move it to a new IP. Now imaging you have your own setup and they block it, as well as access to the provider you used to create the VM that runs it. Using something like Nord or the like at least you know that they will kee…

I guess if you really wanted to be clever you could set up a number of IP addresses and if your VPN doesn't see you login for, say, a day, switch to another IP. Or just give your VM 14 addresses and rotate them as you need. For a 2 week trip/14 addresses this would cost you about $26 on AWS.

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by aswerty »

myrandomcomment wrote: post #88
myrandomcomment wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which channel is streaming it? I have seen some on the BBC over the years but not every match.

Just found it on ITV.

ITV was what I used today, I originally planned on using Virgin Media Ireland but had login issues there.

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by VectorLock »

hatsunearu wrote: post #56
dheera wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I totally understand using a VPN service if you're trying to access the internet from another location, e.g. to get past the China firewall or get access to content from a different copyright jurisdiction. However, I don't fully understand the privacy argument. It would seem to be that instead of handing over your entire DNS query history and unencrypted HTTP history to your own corporate IT department or the Starbuc…

>However, I don't fully understand the privacy argument. Yes, it's crap, and any techbro worth their salary should know this. It's also incredibly annoying when VPN this and VPN that pops up on youtube.

I personally like the irony of VPN companies getting around adblockers by getting paid youtuber sponsorships.

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by lr4444lr »

tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #54
LordHeini wrote: post #7

Why are these VPNs even a thing? The only reason i would use one is to get cheaper steam keys from brasil and for that i can get a free one. From a security standpoint it is awful because you increase the number of providers you have to trust. Apart from your ISP and the server you connect to, you got a third party involved for no reason. And VPNs can not that trustworhty as shown by the leaks of logs and what not. M…

1) people believing long-outdated guidance about not using open WiFi networks without a VPN 2) protecting your browsing traffic from being observed by your ISP (where you may not have much choice), at the risk of it being observed by the VPN company (which you trust). 3) Torrenting without having to worry about fines, nastygrams and other annoyances 4) Bypassing geoblocking 1 + 2 is what the VPNs advertise, but I thi…

What's wrong about (1)? Https or not, there are still MitM attacks, and the URLs you are accessing are still trackable. As to why I'd trust my VPN more than my ISP, who's CEO has got more to lose once word gets out that his company cooperated with authorities to turn over my logs?

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by lr4444lr »

LordHeini wrote: post #43
nicoburns wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Asssuming they don't MITM your connection.

Assume my hotel has some MITM running with the right (broken) certificates and so on. Which is not that trivial to begin with. How hard would it be to take over the dns and simulate a fake VPN too? Or just constantly disconnect the vpn and hope the user stops using it for a while.

Presumably, you exchanged certs with the actual VPN over a known secure network prior.

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by vmception »

namanyayg wrote: post #91
vmception wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do they take bitcoin? I’ve seen various invoicing systems that completely break in Tor+JS and in all noJS environments. If they shoehorned bitpay in, its probably not tapping into the utility of having bitcoin payment options. I like paying invoices with Monero over Tor, while the merchant receives bitcoin that a third party pushed to them. I’ve been doing that for at least half a decade. But if I can’t access th…

What third party are you using that does the xmr -> btc for you?

these days, its Morphtoken and Xmr.to

still waiting for something better but its good enough

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by johnnyfived »

isoprophlex wrote: post #4

By now these VPN providers are like toothpaste, diapers or soft drinks: completely undifferentiated between competitors, and so only able to maintain their market share by spending loads on marketing. Of course the company with most egregious dark patterns and aggressive churn dampening wins. Thankfully a tube of toothpaste doesn't allow implementing dark patterns like this... yet.

I agree with this very much, and it's becoming pervasive in other industry spaces too, like streaming services imo.

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by kilroy123 »

robinhood wrote: post #90

Happy Private Internet Access user, for years, and I don’t have to deal with this kind of practices.

I've used them for years as well and it seems like they have really gone down hill the last year or so. The iOS app is now unusable for me. Lot's of slow or unresponsive servers now. Just heaps of issues for me.

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by iFreilicht »

fasicle wrote: post #77
WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #63

From the thread: >The secret to not dealing with crapty company practices is to avoid ones that advertise literally everywhere 24/7 nonstop around every single corner you look. This is so true it nearly qualifies as physics.

Audible might be the exception, I'm very happy with it.

Very crappy if you want to cancel after you forgot to get new audiobooks for a few months. You lose all your credit, and they don’t say that during the cancellation process. I gifted 6 months of payment to Audible just because they avoided to inform me about that.
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