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Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by BelenusMordred »

notRobot wrote: post #5

Honestly, nothing holds up to Mullvad [1]. They don't even take an email address while creating accounts, and you can pay easily with Bitcoin or even with cash mailed to them. I'm not affiliated, just a very happy customer. Mullvad is also who Mozilla trusts for the Mozilla VPN [2]. You can sign up with that if you'd like Mozilla to get a cut. [1]: https://mullvad.net/ [2]: https://vpn.mozilla.org/

Have massive respect for all the open source code Mullvad pumps out.

https://github.com/mullvad

Don't use their service but they do really come across as one of most trustworthy out there. Have a Protonvpn account for getting around a geoblock once in a blue moon, personally don't have much use for commercial vpns.

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by kevincox »

notRobot wrote: post #5

Honestly, nothing holds up to Mullvad [1]. They don't even take an email address while creating accounts, and you can pay easily with Bitcoin or even with cash mailed to them. I'm not affiliated, just a very happy customer. Mullvad is also who Mozilla trusts for the Mozilla VPN [2]. You can sign up with that if you'd like Mozilla to get a cut. [1]: https://mullvad.net/ [2]: https://vpn.mozilla.org/

It is interesting to me that the Mozilla option is cheaper. (5 USD vs 5 EUR)

Also it bugs me that there are 5 "Try" buttons on the Mozilla site before they even show you the price. To be fair it does show you the price on the credit card page after you log in but still feels a bit scummy to me. Mullvad puts it in your face above the fold.

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by vmception »

notRobot wrote: post #5

Honestly, nothing holds up to Mullvad [1]. They don't even take an email address while creating accounts, and you can pay easily with Bitcoin or even with cash mailed to them. I'm not affiliated, just a very happy customer. Mullvad is also who Mozilla trusts for the Mozilla VPN [2]. You can sign up with that if you'd like Mozilla to get a cut. [1]: https://mullvad.net/ [2]: https://vpn.mozilla.org/

How do they take bitcoin? I’ve seen various invoicing systems that completely break in Tor+JS and in all noJS environments.

If they shoehorned bitpay in, its probably not tapping into the utility of having bitcoin payment options.

I like paying invoices with Monero over Tor, while the merchant receives bitcoin that a third party pushed to them. I’ve been doing that for at least half a decade.

But if I can’t access their invoice they just lose a customer.

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by shrimp_emoji »

notRobot wrote: post #5

Honestly, nothing holds up to Mullvad [1]. They don't even take an email address while creating accounts, and you can pay easily with Bitcoin or even with cash mailed to them. I'm not affiliated, just a very happy customer. Mullvad is also who Mozilla trusts for the Mozilla VPN [2]. You can sign up with that if you'd like Mozilla to get a cut. [1]: https://mullvad.net/ [2]: https://vpn.mozilla.org/

Great Linux client, too!

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

notRobot wrote: post #5

Honestly, nothing holds up to Mullvad [1]. They don't even take an email address while creating accounts, and you can pay easily with Bitcoin or even with cash mailed to them. I'm not affiliated, just a very happy customer. Mullvad is also who Mozilla trusts for the Mozilla VPN [2]. You can sign up with that if you'd like Mozilla to get a cut. [1]: https://mullvad.net/ [2]: https://vpn.mozilla.org/

Mullvad is the service that Firefox use, I took that as an endorsement and tested them, it worked well (on Linux, which has a command line controller for a service that is installed) once you've got used to how it's set up. They seem to do anonymising thoroughly. IIRC you can even mail them cash.

Edit: I should say, I used their support email, they responded pretty quickly for a cheap service, offered a beta client and that fixed the issue (I'd actually tried the beta by the time I got the email back, but still).

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by ence »

LordHeini wrote: post #7

Why are these VPNs even a thing? The only reason i would use one is to get cheaper steam keys from brasil and for that i can get a free one. From a security standpoint it is awful because you increase the number of providers you have to trust. Apart from your ISP and the server you connect to, you got a third party involved for no reason. And VPNs can not that trustworhty as shown by the leaks of logs and what not. M…

Pirating copyrighted material.

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by Hamuko »

s1rech wrote: post #10
LordHeini wrote: post #7

Why are these VPNs even a thing? The only reason i would use one is to get cheaper steam keys from brasil and for that i can get a free one. From a security standpoint it is awful because you increase the number of providers you have to trust. Apart from your ISP and the server you connect to, you got a third party involved for no reason. And VPNs can not that trustworhty as shown by the leaks of logs and what not. M…

If you are using the network of a hotel or a train station, for instance. Assumption is that you trust that VPN provider of course.

Wouldn't you be better served by your own VPN server?

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by muststopmyths »

s1rech wrote: post #10
LordHeini wrote: post #7

Why are these VPNs even a thing? The only reason i would use one is to get cheaper steam keys from brasil and for that i can get a free one. From a security standpoint it is awful because you increase the number of providers you have to trust. Apart from your ISP and the server you connect to, you got a third party involved for no reason. And VPNs can not that trustworhty as shown by the leaks of logs and what not. M…

If you are using the network of a hotel or a train station, for instance. Assumption is that you trust that VPN provider of course.

exactly. I have at least some trust in Mulvad, but I'll be damned if I'm getting on the hotel WiFi in a US hotel chain without VPN. Let alone while travelling in foreign countries.

I frequently access my bank info etc. on such trips. With a VPN at least I have fewer random threat vectors to consider on a network.

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by dhdc »

The amount of astroturfing in the reddit thread is just awful. VPN hosters market in the most aggressive ways possible, probably due to the fact that its usually impossible to verify a VPN hoster's claims (without a breach), so assuming they did most of the VPN stuff right, any new users they lured in are gonna stick, at least for a while.

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by gopty »

notRobot wrote: post #5

Honestly, nothing holds up to Mullvad [1]. They don't even take an email address while creating accounts, and you can pay easily with Bitcoin or even with cash mailed to them. I'm not affiliated, just a very happy customer. Mullvad is also who Mozilla trusts for the Mozilla VPN [2]. You can sign up with that if you'd like Mozilla to get a cut. [1]: https://mullvad.net/ [2]: https://vpn.mozilla.org/

Is mullvad able to drill through the Great Firewall of China? Few VPN can
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