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Google Chrome – Why I Hate It And Continue To Use It

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Re: Google Chrome – Why I Hate It And Continue To Use It

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Post by potatolicious »

scott_s wrote: post #54
potatolicious wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering this has been standard is every single browser, major and minor, and Google is the sole standout... yes. And color profiles aren't some obscure thing that only graphics people care about - there are a lot of photos online right now where people look like zombies (or tomatoes) because the embedded profile isn't being accounted for. If you Google for it, there are plenty of complaints from non-techy people…

Which is a fair point, but I had to just Google "color profiles" to figure out what you're talking about.

Most people who have problems with color profiles don't know their problem is color profiles.

More commonly, people blame it on Windows, OS X, Photoshop, or a litany of apps. Funnily enough, unless they are in the know, they don't blame the browser.

It is a very common problem though, and for people generating content it makes their lives doubly tough. The average quality of your computer display is depressingly low (TN LCD panels can't reproduce a color correctly to save its lousy life), add this to outlier apps like Chrome messing up the experience for users, and you'd never know how your content is going to show up on the end user's machine.

Re: Google Chrome – Why I Hate It And Continue To Use It

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Post by [deleted] »

carussell wrote: post #44
wccrawford wrote: post #10

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You mean it's missing? Like, flat, instead of gradient? I can see that... Not sure I'd complain much, though.

And you just moved the goal posts. -- So I got downvoted. Where the original goal would be being free of issues (or "Everything looks fine") with respect to the attention to detail regarding the gradient, and the new position is no longer being free of issues, but not enough of a personal nuisance for wccrawford to cause him or her to "complain much". I'm still not sure that it needed to be spelled out like that.

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Re: Google Chrome – Why I Hate It And Continue To Use It

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Post by njs12345 »

pasbesoin wrote: post #27

MRU tab order. (I know, I've read the developer comments and it's not going to happen.) Pernicious browser caching. (Just when will you update that edited favicon?) Continuing assault on the address bar. (First they came for "http", then they came for me.) Crappy session management, restoration. (Is there a clear leader in the extensions that add better support? I find myself much less able to rank Chrome extensions…

My friend's written a small Chrome extension which implements MRU tab order - let me know if you're interested, I'll get him to share :)

Re: Google Chrome – Why I Hate It And Continue To Use It

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Post by carussell »

treeface wrote: post #53
carussell wrote: post #47

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> There is simply never a case where what I'm searching for is in the very top right 10 pixels of a page. In your github example, why would you ever be searching for "dashboard", "inbox", "account settings", or "log out"? I think jtaby made it very clear that he wasn't referring to cases where it covers search results, but that it covers the website's UI. In fact, those were his exact words.

In that case, I don't really see any validity in the complaint. The search function is a temporary UI addition with a single purpose that goes away the moment you hit escape. Better yet, if you hit ctrl-f again, it comes back with the same text already entered.

Okay. These are all facts with respect to the find UI; yes, the things you say regarding hitting the escape key and the keyboard shortcut to make the find UI reappear—these are all true, factual things.

But this isn't a concession. You can say these things, but every one of them is immaterial to point that the find UI, when present, obscures parts of the page, where potentially those parts are functional UI for that page.

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Post by wmf »

potatolicious wrote: post #42
ryandvm wrote: post #39

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I'm sure it's a big deal for you, but surely you understand that this is a feature that only 0.5% of the population cares about. Most people are happy to watch 4:3 television stretched to fit their wide screen TVs and you can't believe that Google hasn't implemented color profiles?

Considering this has been standard is every single browser, major and minor, and Google is the sole standout... yes. And color profiles aren't some obscure thing that only graphics people care about - there are a lot of photos online right now where people look like zombies (or tomatoes) because the embedded profile isn't being accounted for. If you Google for it, there are plenty of complaints from non-techy people…

To be safe, shouldn't all photos posted on the Web use sRGB? Using any other profile seems like asking for trouble and loss of dynamic range.

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Post by joshuacc »

callahad wrote: post #12
bimbly wrote: post #5

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But if you zoom all the way into the Hacker News image it doesn't implement anti-aliasing! Lol, that was my favorite complaint on this article; talk about digging for an excuse.

That's a legitimate complaint. The text was anti-aliased in the first image, but it was only done on a whole-pixel basis. Adding a background color apparently convinces chrome to switch to subpixel antialiasing. Whole pixel anti-aliasing looks bad and is inconsistent: both with other parts of Chrome, and with the rest of the broader operating system.

Perhaps this a Mac-only issue? In Vista and Windows 7 Chrome seems to use subpixel antialiasing. See here: http://screensnapr.com/v/nSW3Zz.png

Re: Google Chrome – Why I Hate It And Continue To Use It

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Post by carussell »

akdom wrote: post #34
jtaby wrote: post #13

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Thanks a lot for your comment, callahad. I'll try to respond to your comments. 1. You're right, I hadn't actually noticed that until after I wrote the blog post. I think it's because I hide the Dock by default (still doesn't explain why I didn't notice it in the app switcher) My point was, there are three places to manage downloads. I have to manually close the Downloads bar. Worst of all (and this is something I for…

But if you're searching for specific content it seems to fall into two categories: A) The content _is_ the UI element that's being covered and the search box moves out of the way. B) The content _is not_ the UI element that's being covered and you are looking to find something else on the page. I don't leave the "Find on Page" box open when I'm normally using a page. So when searching I'm not really interacting with…

There's one detail ignored here. You hint at it when you say that, regarding yourself:

> I don't leave the "Find on Page" box open when I'm normally using a page.

(emphasis mine)

When you have the find UI open and you click on a link within the page, the find UI disappears when it navigates to the new page.

This allows you, for example, to open the find UI and use it until you've reached your goal, then promptly drop the find UI from your mind, focusing on your new goals. It's not necessary to focus back on the find UI to consciously close it. Eventually, it gets "garbage collected", to use an analogy.

But under certain conditions, this isn't the case. The conditions are when one of the page elements you would come to interact with—without otherwise ever needing to bring the find UI back to the forefront of your mind—is obscured. You must now focus back on the find UI, close it, then switch back to whatever you were trying to do.

Re: Google Chrome – Why I Hate It And Continue To Use It

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Post by anigbrowl »

I disagree with most of these, but on the other hand I don't use a Mac; perhaps Chrome's UI is more consistent and coherent from the PoV of a Windows user.

However, he's right about the font rendering/antialiasing. It doesn't bug me too much on web pages, but I read a lot of densely-typeset pdfs, and Chrome unusable for anything longer than a few pages.

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