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Intel Fires Back at Apple's M1 Processors with Benchmarks

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Re: Intel Fires Back at Apple's M1 Processors with Benchmarks

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Post by xiphias2 »

,,In battery life, Intel switched to an Intel Core i7-1165G7 notebook, the Acer Swift 5, rather than sticking with the Core i7-1185G7 in the whitebook it used for performance testing''

Wny not just test the Intel laptop in sleep mode? That way it has a chance to compete with a running MacBook.

Re: Intel Fires Back at Apple's M1 Processors with Benchmarks

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Post by kelchm »

WoodenChair wrote: post #11
tedk-42 wrote: post #6

Sadly this is intel clutching at whatever it can to prove it's relevant. The real engineering feat of the M1 processor was how quickly it came to market and its performance per watt for real world usage of common web tasks and anything within the Apple ecosystem. As nice as battery life benchmarks are, I know that the Intel CPU will ramp up and chew through it's maximum rated wattage while keeping under it's thermal…

> The real engineering feat of the M1 processor was how quickly it came to market... Apple has been designing its own processors for 11 years and bought a team to do so that had been doing so for much longer than that. Also, nobody outside Apple knows how long they were working on M1 specifically.

It’s still pretty impressive that they pulled off a basically seamless architecture transition. M1 + Rosetta 2 just works so well it’s hard to even tell the difference much of the time.

Re: Intel Fires Back at Apple's M1 Processors with Benchmarks

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Post by m463 »

AdamJacobMuller wrote: post #9
post_break wrote: post #2

They can benchmark all they want. My M1 macbook pro is silent, even during a facetime or zoom call. The battery lasts more than a day which is incredible, and has never burned my legs while watching a youtube video. Every laptop I've ever owned has been Intel and has never been able to do what this machine can do.

Yeah I really don't understand why a zoom/skype video call absolutely MURDERS the battery on my laptop. It's basically just video playback. How is it so hard on the CPU?

I believe it's about compression and bandwidth.

There might be background removal and audio processing too.

Re: Intel Fires Back at Apple's M1 Processors with Benchmarks

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Post by supermatt »

m463 wrote: post #35

This is the page I like: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html Hmm... The intel chip doesn't look so bad: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-1185G... I wonder where m1 would fall in the mix

It would be on the top of this list: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

Re: Intel Fires Back at Apple's M1 Processors with Benchmarks

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Post by hinkley »

theluketaylor wrote: post #30
post_break wrote: post #2

They can benchmark all they want. My M1 macbook pro is silent, even during a facetime or zoom call. The battery lasts more than a day which is incredible, and has never burned my legs while watching a youtube video. Every laptop I've ever owned has been Intel and has never been able to do what this machine can do.

Agreed; my M1 macbook air is the best and fastest computer I have ever owned and it isn't even close. Instantly being on from sleep has made my work intel macbook pro feel old. Teams meetings turn the intel fan into a jet engine. My M1 macbook joins zoom meetings in utter silence for many, many hours without plugging in. I have yet to see a stutter or dropped frame in the M1 UI. My work intel mac pauses when swiping…

Isn’t a misleading benchmark the sort of thing you publish when you’re panicking?

Re: Intel Fires Back at Apple's M1 Processors with Benchmarks

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Post by guscost »

43920 wrote: post #29
cosmotic wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Software support for the hardware encoding/deciding is very not good. Webcam streams mpeg to electron, electron probably decodes in software, reencodes in sofware, then decodes incoming stream(s) in software. If there's any client side encryption or filtering, that probably also happens in software. It's probably all JS software too. It's like the worst possible case for how to architect an app for performance. At le…

Zoom doesn’t use Electron, and AFAIK it’s all native code.

In this instance the Electron VM/etc matters a lot less than the “(re|en)codes in software” part.

Re: Intel Fires Back at Apple's M1 Processors with Benchmarks

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Post by robbiep »

post_break wrote: post #2

They can benchmark all they want. My M1 macbook pro is silent, even during a facetime or zoom call. The battery lasts more than a day which is incredible, and has never burned my legs while watching a youtube video. Every laptop I've ever owned has been Intel and has never been able to do what this machine can do.

It’s the silence during Google meet calls that’s my favourite thing - my god my air was about to take flight every single time. I can’t believe how unoptimised that was. New M1 air offers enough performance for me for the next 10 years

Re: Intel Fires Back at Apple's M1 Processors with Benchmarks

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Post by theluketaylor »

hinkley wrote: post #37
theluketaylor wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed; my M1 macbook air is the best and fastest computer I have ever owned and it isn't even close. Instantly being on from sleep has made my work intel macbook pro feel old. Teams meetings turn the intel fan into a jet engine. My M1 macbook joins zoom meetings in utter silence for many, many hours without plugging in. I have yet to see a stutter or dropped frame in the M1 UI. My work intel mac pauses when swiping…

Isn’t a misleading benchmark the sort of thing you publish when you’re panicking?

That was what I meant to imply, but it wasn't very clear. Intel is grasping at whatever straws it can think of since they have lost the fab advantage and their power usage is out of control.
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