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Tell HN: All your Google Music deleted on February 24th

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Re: Tell HN: All your Google Music deleted on February 24th

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I know the general feel with Google is "they'll shut this down too" and correct me if I'm wrong, but this looks to be more of a rebranding/merge save for the one click to port everything and lose nothing. If that's true I just wanted to call it out since comments so far read like they're deleting content you've purchased with no recourse.

I would call it that, but Youtube Music is not just a rebranded service.

* Instead of a library of songs to listen to, you're listening youtube videos without the video. I make playlists with them and songs disappear randomly.

* The player is buggy. The music will skip, or randomly restart. Randomly a song won't play because it says the format isn't supported (which doesn't make any sense), and then the playlist stops altogether.

* In Google Play Music, you Liked songs and they would be in a Liked songs playlist. In Youtube you like videos and they are in a Liked Videos list. In Youtube music, after you've merged it, you now have a Liked list that is both your music from GPM, and every Youtube video you've ever liked that's also a song.

Youtube music is a drastic step backwards from GPM. I would've left for spotify already. but I appreciate also having Youtube without ads, and I don't want to pay for both services. I would've been happy with GPM sticking around forever with next to no updates, but Google always has to change something so managers can get their raises and promotions.

Re: Tell HN: All your Google Music deleted on February 24th

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post #7

I know the general feel with Google is "they'll shut this down too" and correct me if I'm wrong, but this looks to be more of a rebranding/merge save for the one click to port everything and lose nothing. If that's true I just wanted to call it out since comments so far read like they're deleting content you've purchased with no recourse.

It's not an automatic transfer though - the customer has to manually transfer out their music. How many people would have read this email?

uhhh... anyone who actually uses the app is presented with the transfer button. You'd have to not have used the service for a very long time to not see the button

Re: Tell HN: All your Google Music deleted on February 24th

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When you get 'your data' ... which you 'purchased' (CDs last longer) ....better check through it to see how many Google links they stuck into it. (Ten years ago, they filled my Blogspot 'download' with them. Syonara forever, chumps.) Note that they want you, the purchaser, to transfer the library to another of their sites. They could do it (considering you've been a 'customer'). Cause they're moving their snake oil act on to the next town.

Re: Tell HN: All your Google Music deleted on February 24th

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post #13
post #7

I know the general feel with Google is "they'll shut this down too" and correct me if I'm wrong, but this looks to be more of a rebranding/merge save for the one click to port everything and lose nothing. If that's true I just wanted to call it out since comments so far read like they're deleting content you've purchased with no recourse.

I would call it that, but Youtube Music is not just a rebranded service. * Instead of a library of songs to listen to, you're listening youtube videos without the video. I make playlists with them and songs disappear randomly. * The player is buggy. The music will skip, or randomly restart. Randomly a song won't play because it says the format isn't supported (which doesn't make any sense), and then the playlist stop…

> ...library of songs...

This is patently false. YTM has a library of tracks and albums that is equivalent to spotify or Google play music. On your phone it's a totally separate app from youtube. In addition to the spotify-esque library of music it can also tap into yt, which has a longer tail of indie stuff.

> ... player is buggy ...

I don't experience exceptional buginess in the player, although there are things that annoy me (same with spotify). However you are moving the goalposts, I thought this was a rant about deleting data? Now it just sounds like a rant about Google changing ux.

* ... merging likes ...

I also did not experience this problem but they did screw up the order of my likes which was very annoying. This complaint is still off topic though.

Re: Tell HN: All your Google Music deleted on February 24th

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would call it that, but Youtube Music is not just a rebranded service. * Instead of a library of songs to listen to, you're listening youtube videos without the video. I make playlists with them and songs disappear randomly. * The player is buggy. The music will skip, or randomly restart. Randomly a song won't play because it says the format isn't supported (which doesn't make any sense), and then the playlist stop…

> ...library of songs... This is patently false. YTM has a library of tracks and albums that is equivalent to spotify or Google play music. On your phone it's a totally separate app from youtube. In addition to the spotify-esque library of music it can also tap into yt, which has a longer tail of indie stuff. > ... player is buggy ... I don't experience exceptional buginess in the player, although there are things th…

> This is patently false. YTM has a library of tracks and albums that is equivalent to spotify or Google play music.

Then its completely separate library of tracks and albums randomly has songs disappear from my playlist or be unplayable in a manner indistinguishable from it sourcing its tracks from random youtube videos. My guess is that their native youtube music library does not have the breadth that their GPM one did, so some of the songs are from the community instead, and randomly disappear.

> I thought this was a rant about deleting data?

If you read the comment I'm replying to, they noted they didn't consider this a service going away if it's just a rebranding or a merger of features. I don't consider it just a rebranding, because they are removing a fully featured service and replacing it with a half baked one. I then proceed to explain the various ways it is quite half baked. Which is why my reply is on topic.

> I also did not experience this problem but they did screw up the order of my likes which was very annoying. This complaint is still off topic though.

I went from a curated list of Liked Songs in GPM to a hodge podge of those liked songs and every random joke song video I've liked since I started on Youtube. That playlist is now useless. That does pertain to my original point.

Re: Tell HN: All your Google Music deleted on February 24th

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They deleted my curated playlist for programming while I was a paying customer and with zero warning. I just moved to a new service (and in parallel keep my playlist locally, with good old mp3 files). Thanks for the warning, but unfortunately when it comes to Google one must never be surprised when their data is no longer accessible.

Why they deleted your playlist? Copyright issues?
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