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How AirBnB Became a Billion Dollar Company

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Re: How AirBnB Became a Billion Dollar Company

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"It is a story of pure unadulterated hustle. And I love it." - Fred Wilson talking about the AirBNB team's Obama cereal hustle. I'd like to borrow his words in regard to this post. Fred's original post - http://www.avc.com/a_vc/2011/03/airbnb.html

Not that I'm against what they're doing and if I was a VC I probably wouldn't care too much - but it's somewhat illegal in this case... Certainly against CL ToS as well.

Re: How AirBnB Became a Billion Dollar Company

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Good read, although, I wouldn't necessarily consider advertising your services to people already listing vacation rentals as "blackhat". Blackhat insinuates that someone is being gamed, in this case, both the home owners and AirBnB are benefiting (maybe craigslist is losing out?).

Of course it's blackhat. They're sending unsolicited, automated spam to people who explicitly stated that they didn't want emails regarding commercial interests. There is a big difference between advertising and spam.

Re: How AirBnB Became a Billion Dollar Company

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post #11
post #5

"It is a story of pure unadulterated hustle. And I love it." - Fred Wilson talking about the AirBNB team's Obama cereal hustle. I'd like to borrow his words in regard to this post. Fred's original post - http://www.avc.com/a_vc/2011/03/airbnb.html

Not that I'm against what they're doing and if I was a VC I probably wouldn't care too much - but it's somewhat illegal in this case... Certainly against CL ToS as well.

Illegal how? I get the ToS violation, but not sure about legality ...

Are you saying it's a violation of the CAN-SPAM act? Or something else?

Re: How AirBnB Became a Billion Dollar Company

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not that I'm against what they're doing and if I was a VC I probably wouldn't care too much - but it's somewhat illegal in this case... Certainly against CL ToS as well.

Illegal how? I get the ToS violation, but not sure about legality ... Are you saying it's a violation of the CAN-SPAM act? Or something else?

CAN-SPAM, sending from a fake address (illegal headers). CA has a specific law that pre-empts CAN-SPAM that definitely makes this illegal if sent from CA (don't ask how I know).

Re: How AirBnB Became a Billion Dollar Company

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In Startups Open Sourced, he says Airbnb "tried everything" but he says that press is the single best source of their growth. Having the happy customers came in second, but would be interested to hear if this helped them much. It's hard to believe that Craigslist is the reason why they'd be so successful when the product is so easy to spread by word of mouth and press.

Re: How AirBnB Became a Billion Dollar Company

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post #7

When someone says "Craigslist spam!", is the first you think of a) spam posted to craigslist as listings, or b) emails advertising something (surreptitiously) to people that have listed their property on craigslist? Not that the latter isn't "spam" of a sort, but it doesn't feel quite like "craigslist spam".

Although it is spam of some sort, a better description would probably be "using sock puppets".
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