I am waiting for comments from Alphabet Workers Union. They said they "demand that the tech industry refuse to maintain infrastructures of oppression". This seems like a perfect fit.
Google, Apple cave to Pakistan pressure to take down apps by Ahmadiyya Muslims
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#12I'm worried about the future of computing devices. With Apple and Google going with the walled garden approach, What's to stop any government from telling Apple and Google that an app is illegal?
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#13It's so horrifying to realize that something like "Anti-blasphemy laws" and the internet coexist in some countries.
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#15Of course I disagree with religious or any other intolerance, but, if you want to do business in Pakistan, you have to follow their rules. It isn't a case of 'caving to pressure', but of 'complying with the law', since the apps are available in other countries, just not in Pakistan, where they are deemed blasphemous, according to their laws.
I agree that Google needs to follow the law where they operate. I do think they should have challenged the demand in court, however. That would show that they at least tried to stand up for their app developers.
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#16It's so horrifying to realize that something like "Anti-blasphemy laws" and the internet coexist in some countries.
Such as Switzerland.
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#17I'm worried about the future of computing devices. With Apple and Google going with the walled garden approach, What's to stop any government from telling Apple and Google that an app is illegal?
> What's to stop any government from telling Apple and Google that an app is illegal?
Nothing; that's most of the idea of a government.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, but Google are not cooperating in that. If you are witnessing a crime that you cannot stop, does it mean that if the criminal gives you a thousand or even a million dollars, you will help them because the crime will happen anyway?
When you make a moral call, do you not forecast a fork in the road where you might choose the morally superior destiny? Or does one merely move moral words without the corresponding conviction to move moral results?
Lots of "moral" in your comment and it crowds the meaning for me.
If you are accusing me that I'm preaching and not following my own words, that is a big assumption on your side.
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#19It's so horrifying to realize that something like "Anti-blasphemy laws" and the internet coexist in some countries.
Such as Switzerland.
Many European countries (like Germany, Italy, Austria, Spain, Portugal, Finland, parts of UK*, Poland, Russia) have blasphemy laws going as far as mandating prison terms, even if they rarely convict or even indict anyone under them.
* corrected from "UK".
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#20Just another reason why you don't want companies like Apple and Google to be the gatekeepers. Technology can set you free, but only if you let it. If you don't, it can easily become a new tool of oppression.