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Google, Apple cave to Pakistan pressure to take down apps by Ahmadiyya Muslims

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Re: Google, Apple cave to Pakistan pressure to take down apps by Ahmadiyya Muslims

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Post by jacknews »

Of course I disagree with religious or any other intolerance, but, if you want to do business in Pakistan, you have to follow their rules.

It isn't a case of 'caving to pressure', but of 'complying with the law', since the apps are available in other countries, just not in Pakistan, where they are deemed blasphemous, according to their laws.

Re: Google, Apple cave to Pakistan pressure to take down apps by Ahmadiyya Muslims

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Post by gostsamo »

jacknews wrote: post #2

Of course I disagree with religious or any other intolerance, but, if you want to do business in Pakistan, you have to follow their rules. It isn't a case of 'caving to pressure', but of 'complying with the law', since the apps are available in other countries, just not in Pakistan, where they are deemed blasphemous, according to their laws.

There are basic human rights, that when breached by a law, make the law a crime. 2010 Google left China for those reasons. Much have changed since then.

Re: Google, Apple cave to Pakistan pressure to take down apps by Ahmadiyya Muslims

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Post by threatofrain »

gostsamo wrote: post #5
jacknews wrote: post #2

Of course I disagree with religious or any other intolerance, but, if you want to do business in Pakistan, you have to follow their rules. It isn't a case of 'caving to pressure', but of 'complying with the law', since the apps are available in other countries, just not in Pakistan, where they are deemed blasphemous, according to their laws.

There are basic human rights, that when breached by a law, make the law a crime. 2010 Google left China for those reasons. Much have changed since then.

But Google leaving hasn’t improved the civil rights situation in China. This appears to be a moral matter that is beyond the scope of Googles.

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Post by antihero »

jacknews wrote: post #2

Of course I disagree with religious or any other intolerance, but, if you want to do business in Pakistan, you have to follow their rules. It isn't a case of 'caving to pressure', but of 'complying with the law', since the apps are available in other countries, just not in Pakistan, where they are deemed blasphemous, according to their laws.

Perhaps is more companies refused to do business in a country due to diabolical laws, people would start voting against politicians that create diabolical laws.

Re: Google, Apple cave to Pakistan pressure to take down apps by Ahmadiyya Muslims

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Post by gostsamo »

threatofrain wrote: post #6
gostsamo wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are basic human rights, that when breached by a law, make the law a crime. 2010 Google left China for those reasons. Much have changed since then.

But Google leaving hasn’t improved the civil rights situation in China. This appears to be a moral matter that is beyond the scope of Googles.

Yes, but Google are not cooperating in that. If you are witnessing a crime that you cannot stop, does it mean that if the criminal gives you a thousand or even a million dollars, you will help them because the crime will happen anyway?

Re: Google, Apple cave to Pakistan pressure to take down apps by Ahmadiyya Muslims

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Post by threatofrain »

gostsamo wrote: post #8
threatofrain wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But Google leaving hasn’t improved the civil rights situation in China. This appears to be a moral matter that is beyond the scope of Googles.

Yes, but Google are not cooperating in that. If you are witnessing a crime that you cannot stop, does it mean that if the criminal gives you a thousand or even a million dollars, you will help them because the crime will happen anyway?

When you make a moral call, do you not forecast a fork in the road where you might choose the morally superior destiny? Or does one merely move moral words without the corresponding conviction to move moral results?
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