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The endless browser wars

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Re: The endless browser wars

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post #22

Key points: > Much of what appears to be Chrome (or Chromium) functionality is, in truth, provided by servers in Google's data centers. These include bookmark synchronization, the safe-browsing feature, search suggestions, spell-checking, and more. > On January 15, the Chromium blog carried this brief notice that, as of March 15, non-Chrome builds of Chromium would lose access to these APIs. > Anticipating this, dist…

I'm guessing that means personalized search autocomplete from the url bar.

Re: The endless browser wars

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post #22

Key points: > Much of what appears to be Chrome (or Chromium) functionality is, in truth, provided by servers in Google's data centers. These include bookmark synchronization, the safe-browsing feature, search suggestions, spell-checking, and more. > On January 15, the Chromium blog carried this brief notice that, as of March 15, non-Chrome builds of Chromium would lose access to these APIs. > Anticipating this, dist…

I find this seriously confusing too. None of these sound like major, or even all that useful, features, and yet they talk about "considering whether there is any value in a crippled version of Chromium".

What makes it crippled?

Re: The endless browser wars

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Holding strong to Firefox as long as I have to. What really strikes me is why more people aren't pushing for open-source browsers. One would think that it is important to have an element of trust for something that makes up the bulk of your computer's uptime, but perhaps open source is no longer a good indicator of trust for projects as large and complex as modern browsers, or people are willing to trust them anyway.…

For many many people Facebook down means internet is broken. Can’t even tell me if using browser or App.

When driving somewhere I often ask the navigator which app they are using, google of Apple Maps. 5 years still can’t tell the difference. Oddly She knows Waze.

Tech people concerns don’t line up well to normal people.

Re: The endless browser wars

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I'm actually kinda confused. If chromium had search suggestions, spell checking from google, logging in to google for bookmark sync and safe browsing, etc, then how is chromium particularly de-google'd?

It actually seems like this move by google is what people claim to want: an open source browser that doesn't phone home to google.

Re: The endless browser wars

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post #15

Sync to me is an anti-feature that seems like a privacy nightmare, I especially don't want it to going to an advertising company. Similarly, the vast majority of new browser APIs are absolute garbage infested with security flaws. Most of them are abused almost exclusively by ad networks, including WASM, Audio Context, Beacon and more.

Sync supports E2E of your data.

Re: The endless browser wars

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Sadly the impact of this will be so small google won't even notice. And even if all the angry chromium users that are potentially going to have to switch their browser would take action and be vocal and do something about what is going on with the web, nothing would change. Such is the price of monopolies.

Re: The endless browser wars

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Until someone creates a new browser with a new render/scripting engine. Which everyone always jumps on saying "it's impossible", the war is over. Chrome has won. Chrome is currently giving life support to Mozilla and when they decide to axe that, well it's game over for Mozilla.

The depressing part is the freedom, the new that the internet once provided is over. It's been turned in to a commercial breeding ground and we are the cattle to be milked and bred. Until we create a whole new infrastructure, protocol suite away from the broken existing OSI model, the internet isn't going to heal. It's going to be robbed and stabbed repeatedly over and over again.

Look at your browsing history today, how many times have you visited that one site in the last year? Now compare that to how many new sites you have visited in the same year; not a lot I expect.

Re: The endless browser wars

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Until someone creates a new browser with a new render/scripting engine. Which everyone always jumps on saying "it's impossible", the war is over. Chrome has won. Chrome is currently giving life support to Mozilla and when they decide to axe that, well it's game over for Mozilla. The depressing part is the freedom, the new that the internet once provided is over. It's been turned in to a commercial breeding ground and…

The issue is that Firefox HAS created a new rendering engine, but people don't switch. It has nothing to do with technology, people wont even try to switch. Some for fanboyism, some because they would have to adapt, some don't even know what browser is.

What I do consider staggering is how many technically capable people are not prepared to make a switch.

Google is slowly closing down the lock-down trap they have nurtured for so many years and now it should be obvious to anyone who is looking at "progress" (or decline?) of internet, but this is still not enough to at least stop using the chrome.

Ah, people... we will just never learn.

Re: The endless browser wars

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post #34

I'm actually kinda confused. If chromium had search suggestions, spell checking from google, logging in to google for bookmark sync and safe browsing, etc, then how is chromium particularly de-google'd? It actually seems like this move by google is what people claim to want: an open source browser that doesn't phone home to google.

Chromium utilizes no proprietary code, that's what makes it different from chrome. All the listed features were just google apis (accessed by open source code) . It still phoned home unless those features were disabled.
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