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The Revolutionary Birth Control Method for Men

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Re: The Revolutionary Birth Control Method for Men

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Post by bakbak »

spidaman wrote: post #26

Yet another illustration about how broken the health care system is in the US. Pharmaceutical and medical device companies are disincented to produce cost effective treatments, it's really an outrage. Medicine in the US is geared towards costly treatments that are needed on a recurring basis; we're inundated with marketing and profit driven medicine. IMO, the NIH and FDA should be promoting a research-rewarded system…

i always wonder why dont we have atleast one country on this planet that has some kind of fast-track approval process for this kind of research and solutions ???

also it shouldn't be costing millions - something like this should be self funded by the govt. ... tax payers are made to pay for many stupid things but research like this should be treated as "Too Big To Fail" !!!!

Re: The Revolutionary Birth Control Method for Men

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Post by ph0rque »

spidaman wrote: post #26

Yet another illustration about how broken the health care system is in the US. Pharmaceutical and medical device companies are disincented to produce cost effective treatments, it's really an outrage. Medicine in the US is geared towards costly treatments that are needed on a recurring basis; we're inundated with marketing and profit driven medicine. IMO, the NIH and FDA should be promoting a research-rewarded system…

Yeah, I was thinking this would be a great kickstarter project. "Pledge $100 or more: get this procedure done for no additional cost, once available."

Re: The Revolutionary Birth Control Method for Men

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Post by solarmist »

The world has been promising male birth control for decades now and the techniques (There are several that all work at almost 100% and are fully reversible) are proven (numerous long term trials, I can think of two from a decade ago off the top of my head, one in Washington state and one in Australia, in their final stages, with fewer side-effects, complications and failures than female birth control) and much more effective than female birth control (100% in most cases). I've been reading about it actively since I was 15 and now I'm 30 and I'm still reading about how it's 5 years away. I want this so bad it hurts, but no one is bringing it to market.

The problem is there isn't (enough of?) an incentive to actually put out these treatments. I guess the money just doesn't compare to female birth control.

Re: The Revolutionary Birth Control Method for Men

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Post by clistctrl »

thasmin wrote: post #9

A 100% effective, low maintenance, reversible birth control method could have an incredible effect on the future of the species. I'm guessing the benefits of fewer unwanted children will be incredible. The possible downsides include a dangerously low birth rate and forced temporary sterilization, but I think the long term effects will be very positive.

Now if only they can figure out how to do it without surgery.

Re: The Revolutionary Birth Control Method for Men

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Post by hugh3 »

bakbak wrote: post #8

This is going to change the world ... this is by far going to have deepest sociological impact (good & bad) on the society ... because many men will use this secretly without telling their partner to avoid having kids ... which eventually will bring enormous decrease in population ... Now someone should come out with novel technique to avoid STD without using condoms ... combination of these 2 techniques will be VIOL…

because many men will use this secretly without telling their partner to avoid having kids ... which eventually will bring enormous decrease in population ...

I doubt there are that many men who want to secretly make themselves infertile in order to not give their wives the children they want to have.

combination of these 2 techniques will be VIOLA

I'm really not sure what violas have to do with it.

Re: The Revolutionary Birth Control Method for Men

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Post by puredemo »

solarmist wrote: post #33

The world has been promising male birth control for decades now and the techniques (There are several that all work at almost 100% and are fully reversible) are proven (numerous long term trials, I can think of two from a decade ago off the top of my head, one in Washington state and one in Australia, in their final stages, with fewer side-effects, complications and failures than female birth control) and much more e…

If enough people want it, and they will, there is incentive.

Re: The Revolutionary Birth Control Method for Men

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Post by hugh3 »

solarmist wrote: post #33

The world has been promising male birth control for decades now and the techniques (There are several that all work at almost 100% and are fully reversible) are proven (numerous long term trials, I can think of two from a decade ago off the top of my head, one in Washington state and one in Australia, in their final stages, with fewer side-effects, complications and failures than female birth control) and much more e…

The problem is there isn't (enough of?) an incentive to actually put out these treatments. I guess the money just doesn't compare to female birth control

One issue is that public health authorities are (probably quite legitimately) concerned that improved male birth control methods will lead to a decrease in the use of condoms and an increase in STDs.

Re: The Revolutionary Birth Control Method for Men

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Post by T-R »

haberman wrote: post #20

In its report, the WHO team agreed that the concept of RISUG was intriguing. But they found fault with the homegrown production methods: Guha and his staff made the concoction themselves in his lab, and the WHO delegation found his facilities wanting by modern pharmaceutical manufacturing standards. Furthermore, they found that Guha’s studies did not meet “international regulatory requirements” for new drug approval—…

This is presented as though it's an instance of regulatory capture - which it may be - but I don't think we really have enough information to draw that conclusion.

It's entirely possible that there was concern for contamination or the like in the methods used, which would be a fair concern. On the other hand, the current manufacturing methods don't strike me as sufficient reasoning to pass on the concept as a whole, if that's indeed what the final recommendation means, as the article seems to imply.

Re: The Revolutionary Birth Control Method for Men

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Post by anigbrowl »

bakbak wrote: post #22
thasmin wrote: post #9

A 100% effective, low maintenance, reversible birth control method could have an incredible effect on the future of the species. I'm guessing the benefits of fewer unwanted children will be incredible. The possible downsides include a dangerously low birth rate and forced temporary sterilization, but I think the long term effects will be very positive.

dangerously low birth rate will be the biggest impact in long-long term - i wont be surprised if every other men uses this technique secretively to NOT to have a child ... as someone mentioned here "A SEXUAL REVOLUTION" is underway ...

We already have a 'dangerously low birthrate' in the US (and in many other countries from France to Singapore). By this I mean a working-age population too low to support the retirement costs of the preceding generation. Practically speaking, however, this can be offset by immigration and the demographics should have smoothed themselves out by around 2030 or so.
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