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Re: Loren wants to work at Airbnb

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Post by briggsbio »

jmtame wrote: post #37
briggsbio wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does standing you up for multiple meetings equate "hustler" instead of "flake"?

I had seen he was working on projects, but that was just my impression. I know how it goes when you're focused on something that you can't take meetings and you only work on stuff for long uninterrupted periods of time. I didn't harass him about it though, I only asked twice and I think it was just bad timing. I'm sure it would have happened if I kept persisting, but even I was pretty busy myself and had forgot about…

Ah. Ok. I got a different impression from your first comment.

Re: Loren wants to work at Airbnb

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Post by marknutter »

M1573RMU74710N wrote: post #69

Hey, I hate to be "that guy"...but since you're applying for a front-end job, here goes: - You're loading scripts in your head tag, and a crap-ton of them. At least some of these could be concat'd together. HTTP request carry a lot of overhead, so fewer is better. I bet at least some could be moved to the bottom as well, with some CSS/JS to avoid the dreaded Flash Of UnBehavioured Content. - In a similar vein, you're…

Most irritating comment I've read on HN in a long time. This type of comment is simultaneously the best and worst thing about geeks.

Re: Loren wants to work at Airbnb

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Post by appendix_a »

M1573RMU74710N wrote: post #69

Hey, I hate to be "that guy"...but since you're applying for a front-end job, here goes: - You're loading scripts in your head tag, and a crap-ton of them. At least some of these could be concat'd together. HTTP request carry a lot of overhead, so fewer is better. I bet at least some could be moved to the bottom as well, with some CSS/JS to avoid the dreaded Flash Of UnBehavioured Content. - In a similar vein, you're…

my chrome browser froze upon "inspect element" - perhaps that is intentional of the author to prevent me from seeing how he made those cute clouds move.

However, M1573RMU74710N makes a good point - engineers are tested on their code.

M1573RMU74710N just gave Loren the answers to the interview questions "how would you optimize this site?"

Re: Loren wants to work at Airbnb

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Post by atourgates »

M1573RMU74710N wrote: post #84
SeoxyS wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ever heard of premature optimization? Doing things like concatenating images into sprites and using css to display them is overkill for pretty much anything except Google's doodles. I also find it to be very inelegant. Best practices is one thing. Overkill is another.

When I lock the door when I leave the house, I am not "prematurely optimizing" against burglaries. The lock is there, I just have to turn it. I'm expending a minimal amount of effort for a comparatively large payoff. When I spend 10,000$ on an alarm system to protect my 50$ stereo... that's prematurely optimizing. Most of the stuff I'm talking about is the default. There are a million and one tools to handle this stu…

Or - to extend your metaphor - if Loren was applying to work at a physical security firm, he'd be better off saying, "I'm a security nut, so much so that I installed an amazing security system at my house, with lasers and a shark-pit and whatnot," than if he just said, "I regularly lock the door at my house."

Sure, the lasers and shark-pit might be overkill for any normal home's security needs, but if they're being used as evidence of talent in the field where you're looking for work, their purpose isn't to be practical for your everyday needs, but to demonstrate applicable skills.

Re: Loren wants to work at Airbnb

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Post by BitMode32 »

M1573RMU74710N wrote: post #69

Hey, I hate to be "that guy"...but since you're applying for a front-end job, here goes: - You're loading scripts in your head tag, and a crap-ton of them. At least some of these could be concat'd together. HTTP request carry a lot of overhead, so fewer is better. I bet at least some could be moved to the bottom as well, with some CSS/JS to avoid the dreaded Flash Of UnBehavioured Content. - In a similar vein, you're…

This is what you call a HATER!!!!!!! Stop being mad at the guy because he came up with a creative way to attract an employer!!! You could obviously tell your downgrading his skills by your ending comment "BTW, I'm available for work. If anyone from AirBnb is reading this.... etc" Please dude get a hold of yourself and stop HATING!!!!!! If you follow best practices and your so HOTSHOT, then why are you not working for a company right now? Why are you available for work?

Re: Loren wants to work at Airbnb

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Post by M1573RMU74710N »

BitMode32 wrote: post #105
M1573RMU74710N wrote: post #69

Hey, I hate to be "that guy"...but since you're applying for a front-end job, here goes: - You're loading scripts in your head tag, and a crap-ton of them. At least some of these could be concat'd together. HTTP request carry a lot of overhead, so fewer is better. I bet at least some could be moved to the bottom as well, with some CSS/JS to avoid the dreaded Flash Of UnBehavioured Content. - In a similar vein, you're…

This is what you call a HATER!!!!!!! Stop being mad at the guy because he came up with a creative way to attract an employer!!! You could obviously tell your downgrading his skills by your ending comment "BTW, I'm available for work. If anyone from AirBnb is reading this.... etc" Please dude get a hold of yourself and stop HATING!!!!!! If you follow best practices and your so HOTSHOT, then why are you not working for…

The irony is palpable.

Relax, seriously. Try to give people the benefit of the doubt instead of just projecting whatever you want onto them. When you read what someone has written on the Internet, sometimes you will misunderstand them...and you need to understand and appreciate that.

BTW, the job thing was a joke about how we're all asking for jobs on HN now. I would think the lol-cat would be an obvious clue that it was intended in jest.

For the record, I am more or less always available for work beause I'm a freelancer.

Re: Loren wants to work at Airbnb

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Post by M1573RMU74710N »

marknutter wrote: post #102
M1573RMU74710N wrote: post #69

Hey, I hate to be "that guy"...but since you're applying for a front-end job, here goes: - You're loading scripts in your head tag, and a crap-ton of them. At least some of these could be concat'd together. HTTP request carry a lot of overhead, so fewer is better. I bet at least some could be moved to the bottom as well, with some CSS/JS to avoid the dreaded Flash Of UnBehavioured Content. - In a similar vein, you're…

Most irritating comment I've read on HN in a long time. This type of comment is simultaneously the best and worst thing about geeks.

I'm curious in what way you find it irritating?

I realize a lot of people have taken this as an attempt to tear down Loren or something, but that's just not the case.

I took time out of my day to go through this guy's site and offer some helpful advice. I didn't just run his page through ySlow or something, I actually went through to see what he was doing and how he could improve it.

I did it in a respectful way, and made a point of complimenting him because I think he did a nice job, and I wanted to make clear I wasn't tearing that down.

If you knew me, you'd know I spend a lot of time in the web development community in IRC and various message boards helping people improve what they are doing, and getting help myself occasionally when I'm stuck on a contract.

It didn't occur to me that so many people would just assume bad faith, personally I try to give people the befit of the doubt...and I never assume that I know exactly what they are saying because text is such a difficult medium to convey these things. In retrospect I could have really hammered in that point, but hindsight is 20/20, and I suspect there still would have been a bunch of people bristling.

This tendency to project things on to other people and then get all offended about what you think they are saying is my biggest issue with some geeks.

Re: Loren wants to work at Airbnb

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Post by marknutter »

M1573RMU74710N wrote: post #107
marknutter wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most irritating comment I've read on HN in a long time. This type of comment is simultaneously the best and worst thing about geeks.

I'm curious in what way you find it irritating? I realize a lot of people have taken this as an attempt to tear down Loren or something, but that's just not the case. I took time out of my day to go through this guy's site and offer some helpful advice. I didn't just run his page through ySlow or something, I actually went through to see what he was doing and how he could improve it. I did it in a respectful way, and…

Like I said, it's both the best and worst thing about geeks. They are very intelligent, but often lack tact and political savvy. They just charge right in with the right answer, which again, is both good and bad depending on who you ask.

Re: Loren wants to work at Airbnb

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Post by josephcohen »

M1573RMU74710N wrote: post #69

Hey, I hate to be "that guy"...but since you're applying for a front-end job, here goes: - You're loading scripts in your head tag, and a crap-ton of them. At least some of these could be concat'd together. HTTP request carry a lot of overhead, so fewer is better. I bet at least some could be moved to the bottom as well, with some CSS/JS to avoid the dreaded Flash Of UnBehavioured Content. - In a similar vein, you're…

Hey dude. About the job - email me at joseph at coursekit dot com.
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