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Re: Help users in Iran reconnect to Signal

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post #41

In the long run, starlink will make it even harder for autocrat regimes to censor the internet. Russian authorities already try to ban connections to Starlink.

This is the only benefit that comes to mind when weighing against obscuring the night sky. Heck even freeing Australians from Telestra's Iron grip would be an accomplishment.

Re: Help users in Iran reconnect to Signal

#214

Almost everyone in these comments is asking questions of various degrees of pedantry or outright dissing signal/moxie/no federation/whatever... Just spin up a server if you can spare the expense and help some people out. Action > inaction. edit: you can get the connection details via @appliedlambdas on twitter!

Considering that there's plenty of people also sharing these on Twitter I've decided to openly share mine as a canary..:

https://signal.tube/#instafax.nl

Re: Help users in Iran reconnect to Signal

#215
post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Signal is clearly recognising that nearly sny server or system they create will be blocked, which is why they recommended this being done on an individual layer. From the article: > A more discrete approach would be to only send the link via a DM or a non-public message. You can post something like this on your favorite social network: > * #IRanASignalProxy Reply to this thread if you want the connection deta…

No good; people working for the Iranian state will DM. Signal didn't think this through. No one should announce proxies via social media. Tell people how to set one up for friends and family.

> No good; people working for the Iranian state will DM.

They'll probably try, but it's not very scalable. It's tough to build and maintain a Twitter account with a history that looks like a real regular person, much less create a bunch of them fast with history that dates back before the day you started. If most of them make a modest effort to verify users, most of them should remain unblocked. It's all pretty decentralized, so it's not that big as deal if a few of them do get discovered and blocked.

Re: Help users in Iran reconnect to Signal

#216
post #188

I would keep in mind that the US has weird antiterror laws about assisting enemies and also laws which construe bypassing system designs as hacking. For instance, Virgil Griffith is being held and charged for giving a high level description of bitcoin transactions at an academic conference in North Korea. This is incredibly more specific and more technical of an act. https://www.coindesk.com/usa-v-virgil-griffith-wha…

Can someone who is a lawyer comment on this, please?

edit: further.. how is Signal shielded (if at all) from providing services to anyone in Iran? Wouldn't they be a target in such a case? The blog post is an explicit call for assistance specifically to do so.

Re: Help users in Iran reconnect to Signal

#217

Hey, did anyone actually try to run this? I'm getting a bunch of errors when trying to run the sudo docker-compose up --detach. How would I know if it's running or not? Sorry, quite new to this apart from hosting a couple of personal pages on a vps.

I found that simple apt-get docker does not work for me on debian. Tried the official docker documenation and that helped: https://docs.docker.com/engine/install/debian/

Re: Help users in Iran reconnect to Signal

#218
post #188

I would keep in mind that the US has weird antiterror laws about assisting enemies and also laws which construe bypassing system designs as hacking. For instance, Virgil Griffith is being held and charged for giving a high level description of bitcoin transactions at an academic conference in North Korea. This is incredibly more specific and more technical of an act. https://www.coindesk.com/usa-v-virgil-griffith-wha…

I wonder how many First Amendment lawyers would be champing at the bit to take a case where a prosecutor was dumb enough to charge someone with a crime for assisting dissidents to communicate.

Re: Help users in Iran reconnect to Signal

#219
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the trick isn't it: having an entire population know something an oppressive government doesn't. Even if you teach everyone how to deploy their own servers, then that's the knowledge the government will start targeting. You can make blocks expensive, i.e. blocking other major, useful services that would disrupt society too much for them to want to deal with, but this of course has its own costs. It's censorshi…

At some point, the easier option is for there to be a revolution or some sort of governmental change.

Communication is key to both of those things.

Re: Help users in Iran reconnect to Signal

#220
post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That article notes that Signal has been domain fronting since 2016. I think google has cracked down on it more recently though, and hence Signal has had to circumvent censors in a new way

Correct, both Google and Amazon told Signal not to use them for domain fronting: https://signal.org/blog/looking-back-on-the-front/

Gross! I wonder what motivated these decisions inside Amazon & Google. This likely affects the Tor project domain fronting as well.

We really should not have let the majority of internet traffic be served by a small handful of giant companies without some legal protections as to what they're allowed to do.

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