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Re: Loren wants to work at Airbnb

#92

Hey, I hate to be "that guy"...but since you're applying for a front-end job, here goes: - You're loading scripts in your head tag, and a crap-ton of them. At least some of these could be concat'd together. HTTP request carry a lot of overhead, so fewer is better. I bet at least some could be moved to the bottom as well, with some CSS/JS to avoid the dreaded Flash Of UnBehavioured Content. - In a similar vein, you're…

You could have easily walked away from this comment. Sure, it might not be 100% optimized...but does it matter, really ? He showed initiative, gumption, and creativity. If I were looking for a front-end engineer and AirBnB doesn't want him, I would definitely hire him. Also, adding that you are available for work, does NOT help your case. Just makes the sign on your back even bigger. The sign that reads "I'm THAT guy…

Let me be clear here since on the Internet people are not always able to discern what you are saying.

My comment is made in 100% good faith, and is in no way intended to put down or detract from Loren. I'm a web developer, and I'm passionate about it. I enjoy talking to other web developers and trading knowledge. My intention here is only to share some knowledge.

>Sure, it might not be 100% optimized...but does it matter, really ?

I believe it does.

This isn't a case where "You could have tweaked this for 2% more foo"...this is a case of multiple lapses in standard and basic best practices.

I'm not prepared to extrapolate this one failure into a generalization about Loren or anything, I think this in no way speaks about his ability except to say that he doesn't always follow best practices. That's something he maybe needs to work on, and there's nothing wrong with that. We all need to work on something.

The whole idea here is to really shine...this is supposed to be a bid for the attention of a possible employer...and that is not the time to skip some really really basic steps. t's like if you were applying for a job as an automotive painter, and you didn't sand the body first. Or if you applied for a job as an editor with a resume riddled with spelling errors. That's fine if you're working on a personal project, but it's not up to professional par.

Even disregarding that, I would feel inclined to point it out, just as I would hope someone would inform me of ways I can improve my work.

> He showed initiative, gumption, and creativity.

Sure, and I applaud it wholeheartedly. However, we're talking about an engineering position here...If I was hiring a front-end engineer and they didn't follow the simplest, first-day, default, standard practice stuff...that would be a couple points off.

>Also, adding that you are available for work, does NOT help your case.

That was said mostly tounge in cheek. The point was not "hey you should hire me instead of this guy, I'm way better"

That's the whole point; this stuff is so basic I don't expect anyone would be impressed by it.

The idea is I imagine some Airbnbers (or maybe others) will read this thread at some point, and since we're all asking for jobs on HN I thought I'd make a playful remark about it. If that playful remark gets me a lead on a job, so much the better.

Just as someone may see his initiative and graphical ability and want to hire him... so may they see my devotion to sharing knowledge, having open and frank discussions about web development, and following best practices and want to hire me.

Re: Loren wants to work at Airbnb

#94

Hey, I hate to be "that guy"...but since you're applying for a front-end job, here goes: - You're loading scripts in your head tag, and a crap-ton of them. At least some of these could be concat'd together. HTTP request carry a lot of overhead, so fewer is better. I bet at least some could be moved to the bottom as well, with some CSS/JS to avoid the dreaded Flash Of UnBehavioured Content. - In a similar vein, you're…

Perhaps it was a conscious decision not to minify and concat. - to show how he works when developing.. in which case, a comment acknowledging so might have been extra-cool. Also, although not the be all and end all in Front end decision making.. http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lorenburt... just food for thought. Most are to do with unescaped ampersands in links.

Or it was carefully crafted to raise the number of comments here...?

...did two failed searches looking for the xkcd where one guy get's 100s of comments more than other on a post because he crafted a spelling mistake. So, picture it in your mind to close the joke.

Re: Loren wants to work at Airbnb

#96

Hey, I hate to be "that guy"...but since you're applying for a front-end job, here goes: - You're loading scripts in your head tag, and a crap-ton of them. At least some of these could be concat'd together. HTTP request carry a lot of overhead, so fewer is better. I bet at least some could be moved to the bottom as well, with some CSS/JS to avoid the dreaded Flash Of UnBehavioured Content. - In a similar vein, you're…

You're automatically "that guy" when you criticise one candidate and then beg for a job at the end. Do one or the other, but not both.

Re: Loren wants to work at Airbnb

#97
this is what makes me visit HN every day. This will give me inspiration for the entire week. Hell of a resume loren, wish I had creativity like you and knew css better :)

How long did it take you to put this effort together and did you send your "formal" resume to airbnb before coming up with this idea?

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