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Re: Parler CEO says he was fired by board

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But it was really about robust business relationships rather than robust technology, wasn't it? According to then-CEO John Matze, their bank, lawyers, text and mail delivery services also cancelled on them.

The scariest one IME is having the bank cancel you. I really worry the world is heading for parallel societies. Good luck to us all.

We already have parallel facts and realities. This seems like the logical next step.

Re: Parler CEO says he was fired by board

#62
Odd dynamic there as unfortunately, standing on principle means getting martyred, and the quote from the former CEO of, “Over the past few months, I’ve met constant resistance to my product vision, my strong belief in free speech and my view of how the Parler site should be managed” is not CEO level strategic.

His investors and board hired him to win, not to pick a principled hill to die on. Martyrs are cheap and nobody making investments can afford cheap things. The irony is Parler positioned itself as less radical than Gab, and it was that very position of bargaining with its platforms is what killed it. How can 4chan, Gab, and the even darker parts of the internet manage to persist online with hardly any money, but someone with Mercer level backing can't keep a site online? The lesson is an example of things we already know, which is that anyone who needs platform permission do to a disruptive startup is already dead.

We absolutely need alternative platforms, and our societies need tools that can survive popular histrionics. Getting owned by some sanctimonious prick at Amazon is not pro level play.

Re: Parler CEO says he was fired by board

#63
post #51

I wonder how much damage that disastrous interview with Kara Swisher did (for the site and for Matze). I have no sense of this. ( https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/07/opinion/sway-kara-swisher... )

Honestly, probably not much. Since day one they've been vocal about not policing any of the speech there. That's the selling point. I can't fathom anyone on the board not knowing that. It's more likely they felt, "you job is to keep the company going, and if that means policing speech, do it," and he failed.

Re: Parler CEO says he was fired by board

#64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If they were behind Cloudflare or another DDoS protection website, you wouldn't even be able to tell they were an AWS customer at all. This is non-sensical. AWS certainly knew they were a customer, and they were the ones that kicked them off. Plus, Cloudflare has deplatformed other customers before, don't think they would have wanted to touch Parler either.

Cloudflare fronts gab without issues afaik. I agree with parent comment that if they didn’t parade it so much they could get away with it

And the .win sites. But those seem to have taken their warning to moderate seriously

Re: Parler CEO says he was fired by board

#65
post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They had a backup plan for getting kicked off AWS, supposedly, but the backup plan terminated their relationship with Parler before AWS did. I can imagine Parler also might have some problems attracting the kind of talent needed to run a site like that.

Huh, it's almost like no provider in America is cool with your platform being used to plan an insurrection. Or open calls for violence against and murder of elected officials.

Hard to see why it matters if they are elected officials.

Re: Parler CEO says he was fired by board

#66
Give me Parler's software and I will host it in Russia... that's where USA's free speech usually come from anyways (free as in somewhat controversial, popular and still allowed).

I think I say a lot of somewhat controversial things, but they let it fly because I am not popular.

Re: Parler CEO says he was fired by board

#67
post #15

Was he the CTO as well? That’s who should really be fired (unless Matze hired the CTO in which case sack them both).

Could you imagine being the CTO of this company, kind of cruising along in the modern integration focused environment? You need an email provider (looks like they used SendGrid) a 2FA provider (Twilio), hosting (AWS), apps (Apple, Google), internal chat (Slack), etc. Now imagine all of those services say "nah, you're done". All of the sudden you need to roll your own everything. You have millions of users and no acce…

The smarter move for the CTO might have been to get things going. Keep networking with other companies for a same level position and then peace out when it looks like things are going to blow up.

At least you would have some reputation intact. Now he is just the guy that failed, couldn't recover and will have a hard time going anywhere.

Re: Parler CEO says he was fired by board

#68

Not surprising, when your first and foremost duty as the headhoncho should be doing what you can to keep your site online. It's been almost a month that the site has been down for now. Yes, an outage should be expected when you get deplatformed at a network level... however they could not put up anything more than a status page in this time.

I can think of plenty of SV darlings that would take far longer than a month to recover from such an event. That said, given the content Parler was hosting they really should've planned for something like this, so it makes sense to terminate the CEO.

Are the permissionless decentralized tools really not prepared for any level of throughput yet?

Genuine question

Are there any tools for hosting large volumes of user generated content in a decentralized permissionless way?

Even if you have to pare down the front end and reduce reliance on some infrastructure concepts, is there any way to do it right now?

Re: Parler CEO says he was fired by board

#69
post #53

Looks like free speech won't be returning to Parler. No use putting the site back up if basic principles are abandoned.

Do you consider disallowing death threats and plans to commit violent acts and crimes an untenable affront to the right to free speech? That's why they were taken down, it really, REALLY wasn't about the political speech.

Re: Parler CEO says he was fired by board

#70

Wow, they can't figure out how to colocate a server? There are plenty of companies that would love to be the hosting face of Parler and agree with its userbase.

> There are plenty of companies that would love to be the hosting face of Parler and agree with its userbase.

I don’t know if that’s really true. At least not in the Bay Area, which holds the lions share of internet companies from hosting to CDN.

It’s actually remarkably hard to run any kind of website of note and not be at the mercy of some company based out of SV.

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