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The reverse brain drain

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India is definitely a country to watch. With China's one-child-per-family rule, it could very well be India that becomes the new super power in the next 20-50 years...

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India is definitely a country to watch. With China's one-child-per-family rule, it could very well be India that becomes the new super power in the next 20-50 years...

I'd like this to be true, but I can't help thinking that much of this is just wishful thinking. India has terrible infrastructure, which as far as I can make out is only getting worse. All-pervasive corruption is a big problem as well, as is the fact that _all_ (at least something like 85% or more) politicians are criminals.

The (completely unscientific) impression I get is that things got better between 1995-2005 and are now getting worse. Maybe these expats are just seeing the delta between 199x and 20xx.

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India is definitely a country to watch. With China's one-child-per-family rule, it could very well be India that becomes the new super power in the next 20-50 years...

I'd like this to be true, but I can't help thinking that much of this is just wishful thinking. India has terrible infrastructure, which as far as I can make out is only getting worse. All-pervasive corruption is a big problem as well, as is the fact that _all_ (at least something like 85% or more) politicians are criminals. The (completely unscientific) impression I get is that things got better between 1995-2005 an…

things are still getting better. the presence of bad things doesn't mean you can ignore a huge upswing in living standards all over a country of a billion+ people.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd like this to be true, but I can't help thinking that much of this is just wishful thinking. India has terrible infrastructure, which as far as I can make out is only getting worse. All-pervasive corruption is a big problem as well, as is the fact that _all_ (at least something like 85% or more) politicians are criminals. The (completely unscientific) impression I get is that things got better between 1995-2005 an…

things are still getting better. the presence of bad things doesn't mean you can ignore a huge upswing in living standards all over a country of a billion+ people.

> the presence of bad things doesn't mean you can ignore a huge upswing in living standards all over a country of a billion+ people.

You can say that about China, but not about India. Things have not improved much for the average Indian. In fact, in many places it's gotten worse.

Re: The reverse brain drain

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India is definitely a country to watch. With China's one-child-per-family rule, it could very well be India that becomes the new super power in the next 20-50 years...

I'd like this to be true, but I can't help thinking that much of this is just wishful thinking. India has terrible infrastructure, which as far as I can make out is only getting worse. All-pervasive corruption is a big problem as well, as is the fact that _all_ (at least something like 85% or more) politicians are criminals. The (completely unscientific) impression I get is that things got better between 1995-2005 an…

I suspect 85% of all the worlds politicians are criminals. The sort of people who are willing to do anything to get ahead excel at politics.

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things are still getting better. the presence of bad things doesn't mean you can ignore a huge upswing in living standards all over a country of a billion+ people.

> the presence of bad things doesn't mean you can ignore a huge upswing in living standards all over a country of a billion+ people. You can say that about China, but not about India. Things have not improved much for the average Indian. In fact, in many places it's gotten worse.

Every presentation I have seen on India cites dramatic improvement from 2000-2010.

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things are still getting better. the presence of bad things doesn't mean you can ignore a huge upswing in living standards all over a country of a billion+ people.

> the presence of bad things doesn't mean you can ignore a huge upswing in living standards all over a country of a billion+ people. You can say that about China, but not about India. Things have not improved much for the average Indian. In fact, in many places it's gotten worse.

Can we get some objective data or examples for these claims?

Re: The reverse brain drain

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This is nothing unique to India btw. Check out all over east Africa for example of people who've done well in first world countries or just moderately well but have drive and ambition to start something back home. Common tale to hear about the merchant living lower middle class in USA but something of a legend and well off in north Kenyan cities trading and selling different wares, providing money transfer services, or mobile banking. Many gradually move their entire families over to Africa, even though the kids have lived their whole lives as Anericans. Interesting cultural and generational frictions flare up often.

Re: The reverse brain drain

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

things are still getting better. the presence of bad things doesn't mean you can ignore a huge upswing in living standards all over a country of a billion+ people.

> the presence of bad things doesn't mean you can ignore a huge upswing in living standards all over a country of a billion+ people. You can say that about China, but not about India. Things have not improved much for the average Indian. In fact, in many places it's gotten worse.

The United Nations Human Development Report doesn't seem to agree: http://hdrstats.undp.org/en/countries/profiles/IND.html.

What do you mean?

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