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Dante's descendant seeks to overturn poet's 1302 corruption conviction

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Re: Dante's descendant seeks to overturn poet's 1302 corruption conviction

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Post by dmix »

The article mentions Galileo:

> “They were political trials and the penalties of exile and death inflicted on Dante, my dear ancestor, are unjust and have never been cancelled as happened with Galileo Galilei,”

But his heresy 'case' wasn't ever officially overturned by the Catholic Church. Various modern Pope's just said some nice things about him, but didn't go as far as over ruling the heresey charge. Assuming that was possible.

The pope had his talks canceled at La Sapienza University over this as recently as January 2008 .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_affair#Modern_Catholic...

Re: Dante's descendant seeks to overturn poet's 1302 corruption conviction

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Post by Ekaros »

edmundsauto wrote: post #10
barrucadu wrote: post #8

What's the point in pardoning dead people?

To correct the record, and to serve the general idea that justice can get it right, eventually. Impact wise, it probably makes the family feel better.

I wonder if this were to applied to more modern cases by some governments, would then the later governments apply new conviction or overturn the overturn... And how many times this chain could happen?

Unless, the case is so recent that it had some effect in modern day. I wouldn't go touch the old stuff. It is way too risky in long run...

Re: Dante's descendant seeks to overturn poet's 1302 corruption conviction

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

dash2 wrote: post #7
spoonjim wrote: post #2

Can a government today even issue a pardon for crimes alleged by a government of 1302? It’s not even the same institution.

Are you sure? Italy has a lot of historical continuity. If you go to Rome, the manhole covers read SPQR (Senatus Populusque Romanus). IIRC the government of Florence still works from the buildings of the Uffizi.

There are manhole covers in Copenhagen that make reference to H.C. Andersen but he didn't actually have anything to do with them, it was more in the form of a thing to make tourists feel they were somewhere cool.

I might accept some continuity from now back to the time of Garibaldi for Italy as a whole (but then we have to write some notable periods off as aberrations) - As for Florence I would accept going back to Napoleonic times but from there the continuity of government was surely broken.

Re: Dante's descendant seeks to overturn poet's 1302 corruption conviction

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Post by delecti »

Is this necessary? This article from 2008 seems to indicate that his sentence had been rescinded.

https://web.archive.org/web/20111230060902/http://www.telegr...

Also, it looks like he was convicted under the Holy Roman Empire, which doesn't really exist anymore. I'm not sure who there is to overturn his conviction.

Re: Dante's descendant seeks to overturn poet's 1302 corruption conviction

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Post by mongol »

edmundsauto wrote: post #10
barrucadu wrote: post #8

What's the point in pardoning dead people?

To correct the record, and to serve the general idea that justice can get it right, eventually. Impact wise, it probably makes the family feel better.

Time to call Pontius Pilatus descendants to correct a historical mistake.
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