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Re: Me and ADHD

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Post by [deleted] »

mbgerring wrote: post #137
forgotmypw17 wrote: post #125

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i don,t think it is either, but an environment way more demanding than what we previously lived in trying to squeeze every last drop of productivity out of ,,the stock,, and calling anyone who falls short disordered.

I think that our culture definitely demands more productivity out of people than is reasonable, but that's not really the issue I'm referring to. I'm referring to things like not being able to take my focus away from, for example, reading social media posts, in order to make an appointment or social event on time. Not being able to correctly conceptualize how long it will take me to get ready, leave my house and trav…

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Re: Me and ADHD

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Post by forgotmypw17 »

mbgerring wrote: post #137
forgotmypw17 wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i don,t think it is either, but an environment way more demanding than what we previously lived in trying to squeeze every last drop of productivity out of ,,the stock,, and calling anyone who falls short disordered.

I think that our culture definitely demands more productivity out of people than is reasonable, but that's not really the issue I'm referring to. I'm referring to things like not being able to take my focus away from, for example, reading social media posts, in order to make an appointment or social event on time. Not being able to correctly conceptualize how long it will take me to get ready, leave my house and trav…

Is it reasonable to expect an individual to live by the societal clock?

Re: Me and ADHD

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Post by WarChortle »

logicslave wrote: post #273
sizzle wrote: post #254

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A pharmacist does not equal a neuroscientist studying effects of long-term stimulant use on developing early onset neurodegenerative disease in any way, shape, or form. Sorry but you need to look at meta-analyses on on the topic and use that as a reference to prove anything to HN crowd at a minimum when making these bold unsubstantiated fear-mongering claims.

Yes but they interact with the same customers over long periods of time. I hate to tell you, but people can come to conclusions about the world. Its not a walled garden. I can see with my own two eyes what happens. Go ahead and take legal cocaine though, hope your post helps you sleep at night

No need to be rude. Just because you see something doesn't mean your getting the whole picture.

Do you know their entire medical history? How severe the ADHD is? Any other issues they are treating or not treating? If you can point to a study to back up what you are saying then by all means go for it. Otherwise all you have is anecdotal evidence and pretty weak evidence at that.

Re: Me and ADHD

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Post by forgotmypw17 »

mbgerring wrote: post #137
forgotmypw17 wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i don,t think it is either, but an environment way more demanding than what we previously lived in trying to squeeze every last drop of productivity out of ,,the stock,, and calling anyone who falls short disordered.

I think that our culture definitely demands more productivity out of people than is reasonable, but that's not really the issue I'm referring to. I'm referring to things like not being able to take my focus away from, for example, reading social media posts, in order to make an appointment or social event on time. Not being able to correctly conceptualize how long it will take me to get ready, leave my house and trav…

> I'm referring to things like not being able to take my focus away from, for example, reading social media posts, in order to make an appointment or social event on time. Not being able to correctly conceptualize how long it will take me to get ready, leave my house and travel to where I need to be, no matter how many times I've done it. Doing this so often that it hurts friends, family, and work.

I'm the same way, and once I stopped trying to "fix" this "disorder", I've become not only much happier, but also more productive. Just one anecdatapoint.

Social media, I use it carefully. I keep asking myself, "am I learning something useful from this?"

Re: Me and ADHD

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Post by scottlamb »

blueridge wrote: post #219

In case it's helpful for anyone else who, broadly speaking, has trouble with attention or learning though isn't convinced its ADHD: get your eyes checked. "Due to similar symptoms, an undetected visual dysfunction can be misdiagnosed as ADD/ADHD, dyslexia or a reading disability. A comprehensive eye exam, which rules out a binocular vision dysfunction, is critical to determining if vision is a contributing factor." S…

> "Due to similar symptoms, an undetected visual dysfunction can be misdiagnosed as ADD/ADHD, dyslexia or a reading disability. A comprehensive eye exam, which rules out a binocular vision dysfunction, is critical to determining if vision is a contributing factor."

Does a standard eye exam cover that? An optometrist recently told me that my eyes are "boring" and my mild prescription hasn't changed in years. So I've been trying to address my tired eyes with the basics: "20-20-20" (every 20 minutes, look at something at least 20 feet away for 20 seconds), actually wearing my glasses, drinking enough water, exercise, stress reduction, and getting enough sleep. If I continue to have trouble, should I ask for some more comprehensive exam?

> Anyway, I just wanted to post this in case it's helpful to someone who is lurking with tired eyes and a fractured attention span.

I suspect there are a lot of such folks, but the obvious suspect is the pandemic. Among other things, it often means fewer unplanned vision breaks and generally worse self-care.

> You want an optometrist with F.C.O.V.D after their name, someone who specializes in binocular vision and muscular dysfunction.

To rephrase my initial question more precisely: do I need to get the person who does the exam to have that qualification, or is that just who I'd go to after seeing something is wrong on a standard exam with any optometrist?

Re: Me and ADHD

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Post by treeman79 »

rubicon33 wrote: post #317
treeman79 wrote: post #300

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Caffeine keeps trigging small strokes for me. So, not well. Factor 5 leiden, so different then most people.

Woh... Sorry to hear that. How does a small stroke manifest?

Entire Right side goes numb, weak and icy cold. Lose the ability to write by hand. Vision goes double. Thinking becomes very difficult. Lose balance, Various levels of confusion. A bad One made me mostly forget my kids for a couple of months.

It’s kind of between a TIA and a full stroke. I used to Get TIAs a lot, but ignored them as they lasted under 30 seconds. Now they are much worse.

Blood thinner mostly Prevent. Side effects can be brutal though. I seem to have permanently lost ability to write by hand. Thankfully typing is mostly intact.

Anything that acts as Vascular constrictors is seriously off limits for me.

Re: Me and ADHD

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Post by vmception »

bootstrapping wrote: post #132
xyzzy_plugh wrote: post #93

A lot of comments here are warning about the addictive properties of stimulant medications. For folks without ADHD, you should know that stimulants, like Ritalin and Adderall, do not usually cause the same response as in non-ADHD people. I've spoken with many people on stimulants, and none of them enjoy taking the medication, beyond what it has done to improve their lives. Furthermore, most ADHD people develop tolera…

I'll echo this; I'm a serial founder who was diagnosed with ADHD in his mid-forties. The stimulant medications do not make me "high", do not provide any kind of buzz. Rather, they have a moderating effect. Explaining this requires correcting the misunderstandings in the public realm of how adult ADHD presents, but in nutshell: * The (largely mental) hyperactivity is controllable, that is, I retain my creative ideas g…

> I'm a serial founder who was diagnosed with ADHD in his mid-forties.

I've seen this a lot.

A lot of parents were in complete denial about their children having ADHD, and the rampant diagnosing of ADHD at a point in time. Turns out a lot of children actually had it, and it is not the most compatible with the environment they are in and will be in.

All things did happen: rampant diagnosis, misdiagnosis, and parents in denials. But none of that means any particular child didn't have ADHD.

I've brought this reality up to other parents repeating the same things.

Re: Me and ADHD

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Post by taneq »

wk_end wrote: post #190
renewiltord wrote: post #104

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Yeah, my first adderall came from a friend who uses it to party. I can't see how. It makes me much quieter. Partying on it is something I can't even imagine.

My personal experience was that dextroamphetamine helped my (pretty severe) social anxiety by calming me. I don't know if I'd call it "partying", but I've functioned much better at social gatherings when taking therapeutic doses of it. I've been considering trying to get a prescription for years, but I don't present most typical symptoms of ADD (maybe some inattentive ones?) so I suspect psychiatrists would be reluct…

Part of what makes it so difficult to diagnose adult ADHD is that most adults come up with a range of adaptive behaviours to try and mitigate the effects of the disorder. So just because you don't look like you have stereotypical ADHD doesn't mean you're not compensating for them - have a think about your various coping mechanisms and whether they're covering for some of those symptoms.

Re: Me and ADHD

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Post by nullsense »

elliekelly wrote: post #16
logicslave wrote: post #12

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Yes, but in the long run amphetamines will do significant damage to your health.

Leaving ADHD untreated can do significant damage to your health, too.

This is something people just don't appreciate at all. ADHD is shortens life expectancy by 12 years on average. I imagine it runs the gamut from addiction problems, accidents, suicide, obesity, ignoring health problems until they snowball etc.

I'm certainly guilty of that last one. Since getting diagnosed I've been making a point to never leave a health problem ignored. Sure, it might take 6 months to a year for me to eventually book the appointment, but I'm getting them under control at my own pace.

Re: Me and ADHD

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Post by imesh »

falcolas wrote: post #44
imesh wrote: post #27

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> I don't feel strung out nor is it some addiction. Ignore the people screaming about Adderall being "literal meth" and how it will certainly kill you. Even with an addictive personality, it's very easy to avoid over-doing it (hint: only take it as prescribed). Low dose meth does work pretty similar to Adderall. Everyone who does meth does not become a meth addict. Most don't. But the people who become meth addicts a…

To paraphrase, "I think adderall is kinda like meth, so it's obviously addictive." The fuck? Adderall is one of many medical options for treating ADHD. Not all of which are stimulants. And some of which are chemically designed so they can't be abused (like Vyvance). EDIT: The OP pulled the "in my opinion" phrasing from their post, but I'm going leave mine as-is. There's a lot of anecdote based FUD about ADHD meds goi…

Paraphrasing only works when it captures the essence of what is being said.
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