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Re: The first commercial astronaut mission to orbit Earth aboard Dragon

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Hate to be that guy but what's the environmental impact of flying folks to orbit "just for kicks" if this were to become a business

Becoming space faring could allow us to have a trillion humans and have the planet be effectively a nature preserve. So long term net positive environmental impact I expect.

Re: The first commercial astronaut mission to orbit Earth aboard Dragon

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I like how they say "no earlier than the forth quarter" in their announcement. Though it may not inspire confidence in a deliverable date, I might start trying to use the turn of phrase at my work.

It's a common way of describing deadlines in the aerospace industry, since a lot can go wrong with large complex engineering projects in the physical world. It's usually abbreviated to NET.

Re: The first commercial astronaut mission to orbit Earth aboard Dragon

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I like how they say "no earlier than the forth quarter" in their announcement. Though it may not inspire confidence in a deliverable date, I might start trying to use the turn of phrase at my work.

This is perfect timing. I've just been told to communicate a significant project delay to a customer. 'Next quarter' sounds a lot better than 'months, not weeks'. Thanks heaps.

Re: The first commercial astronaut mission to orbit Earth aboard Dragon

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Hate to be that guy but what's the environmental impact of flying folks to orbit "just for kicks" if this were to become a business

Here's some back of the envelope calculations.

The Raptor engine uses a propellant mixture (methalox = liquid methane + liquid oxygen) that is slightly fuel rich. In other words, the reaction resultants are not just CO2 and H2O, but CH4 as well. Since CH4 is a very potent greenhouse gas (the EPA says it's 25 times more potent than CO2), this makes a difference.

Anyway, here's the numbers: the mass of the propellant is about 500 tons, and the mass of the equivalent CO2 emissions is about 650 tons per flight.

For comparison, the humankind puts about 30 billion tons of CO2 in the air every year. A Boeing 777 flight puts about 500 tons on a long haul trip.

Re: The first commercial astronaut mission to orbit Earth aboard Dragon

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Hate to be that guy but what's the environmental impact of flying folks to orbit "just for kicks" if this were to become a business

Becoming space faring could allow us to have a trillion humans and have the planet be effectively a nature preserve. So long term net positive environmental impact I expect.

There's no need for a specific number of humans larger than what's necessary to continue the species indefinitely. We can easily become sustainable on Earth as we were for thousands of years with or without space colonization.
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