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Re: Gemini Earn

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PROGRAM RISKS YOUR AVAILABLE DIGITAL ASSETS WILL LEAVE GEMINI'S CUSTODY, AND YOU ACCEPT THE RISK OF LOSS ASSOCIATED WITH LOAN TRANSACTIONS, UP TO AND INCLUDING TOTAL LOSS OF YOUR AVAILABLE DIGITAL ASSETS. Gemini is not a depository institution, and the Program does not offer a depository account. Participating in the Program may put your Digital Assets at risk. Loans made through the Program are unsecured. You have e…

For anyone using similar programs for years, they are the exact same

Nexo

Blockfi

Crypto.com

And Celsius

All have the same inherent limitations for insurance coverage and clauses

At least the autonomous onchain services let you purchase smart contract insurance to reimburse community accepted unexpected behaviors like overflows.

Re: Gemini Earn

#14
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Interesting development, and nice to see a growing ecosystem of useful cryoto products. BlockFi (use my Referral Code 42040b1c) has better rates, but this Gemini Earn has a bunch of "alt coins" not on BlockFi. BlockFi gives you 6% on BTC, and 8.6% on USDC/GUSD. I have a few grand in BlockFi, and it's nice to get ~30/40 a month from interest. This would be awesome if you want to hold say Filecoin, but also want to ear…

Yeah my favorite thing about CeFi and DeFi is that there is so much room to easily compete by contributing just a different combination of assets, almost infinite permutations possible

Each service offers a few assets, gets comfortable and extremely hard to contact by any other token’s community and loses business to the next service that does offer the token du jour for lending and borrowing.

Total boom town

Re: Gemini Earn

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is..exactly the same when compared to a bank, a brokerage account, or index fund.

A bank, brokerage account, or index fund would have FDIC or SIPC insurance coverage.

It does not protect if the asset invested in goes down in value.

FDIC is protection against the bank being insolvent.

SIPC does not protect customers against losses from the rise and fall in the market value of investments.

https://www.sipc.org/for-investors/what-sipc-protects

Re: Gemini Earn

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Can someone more familiar with these types of programs (whether Gemini's or another's) explain how these companies evaluate the trustworthiness of their borrowers?

Given that these loans appear to be unsecured, the last thing I would want is for Gemini to approve someone with my money and have them skip town, metaphorically speaking.

Re: Gemini Earn

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is..exactly the same when compared to a bank, a brokerage account, or index fund.

Except all of those are insured by the FDIC so there's almost no risk outside of market volatility.

Wrong.

It does not protect if the asset invested in goes down in value.

FDIC is protection against the bank being insolvent.

SIPC does not protect customers against losses from the rise and fall in the market value of investments.

https://www.sipc.org/for-investors/what-sipc-protects

Re: Gemini Earn

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is..exactly the same when compared to a bank, a brokerage account, or index fund.

Aren't most of those institutions bound by certain laws and insurance requirements?

Not for investments. For regular banking, checking and savings, yes. That's FDIC.

It does not protect if the asset invested in goes down in value.

FDIC is protection against the bank being insolvent.

SIPC does not protect customers against losses from the rise and fall in the market value of investments.

https://www.sipc.org/for-investors/what-sipc-protects

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