Germany to be nuclear-free by 2022
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Germany to be nuclear-free by 2022
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Re: Germany to be nuclear-free by 2022
#2Good move aka burning bridges. If managed right, this will enhance the development and use of better technologies.
Re: Germany to be nuclear-free by 2022
#3Good move aka burning bridges. If managed right, this will enhance the development and use of better technologies.
Nuclear is the safest form of energy that we currently have. More people die from installing solar panels than deaths occurred in nuclear accidents: http://nextbigfuture.com/2008/03/deaths-per-twh-for-all-ener... .
Re: Germany to be nuclear-free by 2022
#4Good move aka burning bridges. If managed right, this will enhance the development and use of better technologies.
IIRC the German government stated that at least in the short to mid-term they'd offset the main part of the decrease in energy production with additional coal power plants.
I doubt that that's a good move...
Re: Germany to be nuclear-free by 2022
#5Good move aka burning bridges. If managed right, this will enhance the development and use of better technologies.
You can apply this reasoning to anything, so what makes you think it necessarily applies to nuclear power? That is to say, by what reasoning do you argue that nuclear power itself isn't a 'better technology'? And better than what?
Re: Germany to be nuclear-free by 2022
#6Sweden held a referendum in 1980 about nuclear power, and the only choice was about how fast our nuclear power plants should be shut down.
It took twenty years until a reactor was closed, and five more years until one whole plant was closed.
During this time, Sweden's energy consumption has of course gone up, and although there's been some increase in wind and water power, the net result is that each time we close a nuclear reactor, we have to import a lot more electricty from Danish or German coal-powered plants.
So the net result for the environment is negative, but the environmentalist movement thinks it's a huge win.
I'm willing to wager that this German proposal will have the exact same end result. The only way to successfully switch to renewable energy is by making renewable energy cheaper than coal or nuclear.
Re: Germany to be nuclear-free by 2022
#7Meanwhile Japan itself, which has weathered the effects of several nuclear disasters (Fukushima being the mildest), is doing no such thing.
And apparently Germany will continue to import power derived from nuclear plants.
Re: Germany to be nuclear-free by 2022
#8Sweden held a referendum in 1980 about nuclear power, and the only choice was about how fast our nuclear power plants should be shut down. It took twenty years until a reactor was closed, and five more years until one whole plant was closed. During this time, Sweden's energy consumption has of course gone up, and although there's been some increase in wind and water power, the net result is that each time we close a…
What I suspect will happen is more power will be imported from nations that flagrantly pollute the environment.
The Chinese might be on to something with putting the engineers in charge. Sometimes the public really doesn't know what the fuck they're doing, and should be completely ignored.
Re: Germany to be nuclear-free by 2022
#9Sweden held a referendum in 1980 about nuclear power, and the only choice was about how fast our nuclear power plants should be shut down. It took twenty years until a reactor was closed, and five more years until one whole plant was closed. During this time, Sweden's energy consumption has of course gone up, and although there's been some increase in wind and water power, the net result is that each time we close a…
I cannot agree. You are stuck in a view that energy needs to be cheap and that energy must be available despite the costs of nuclear reactors for nature and future generations.
This is the classical view of people who see technical progress as a kind of god given fact or as the natural direction humanity must take.
Re: Germany to be nuclear-free by 2022
#10Sweden held a referendum in 1980 about nuclear power, and the only choice was about how fast our nuclear power plants should be shut down. It took twenty years until a reactor was closed, and five more years until one whole plant was closed. During this time, Sweden's energy consumption has of course gone up, and although there's been some increase in wind and water power, the net result is that each time we close a…
Look on the bright side! :-)
German coal plants have better cleaning after DDR, so the extra German coal plants won't generate lots of environmental problems with acidic rain over Sweden...