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Spotify patent would suggest songs based on users' emotions

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Re: Spotify patent would suggest songs based on users' emotions

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Post by falcolas »

airstrike wrote: post #9
millstone wrote: post #7

Here is the referenced July paper [1]. Spotify has a very cool feature called Community [2] where users can talk about what they want Spotify to do. The most upvoted ideas are things like "change my username" or "filter explicit songs." My personal wishlist is a "don't play this song again" button [3] and native Homepod support [4]. The point is that users aren't asking for Spotify to interpret their emotional state,…

> The point is that users aren't asking for Spotify to interpret their emotional state, they just want rather basic features to work. Obligatory “If I’d asked customers what they want, they would have told me a faster horse.” People may not realize the value of this new feature because they have not even imagined it.

What value does mining emotions provide for the customer?

Re: Spotify patent would suggest songs based on users' emotions

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Post by semanticsbitch »

falcolas wrote: post #10
spacephysics wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do we make it less scary?

Stop believing that just because we can do something, we have an intrinsic right to do something. We should also probably stop letting “shareholder value” drive our morals.

Who are you to dictate and you mention morals which collectively we don't have. Only as an individual.

I believe that there is a culture of atheists (or just non religious people) using judeo Christian ideals to push agendas.

Re: Spotify patent would suggest songs based on users' emotions

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Post by behringer »

falcolas wrote: post #11
airstrike wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The point is that users aren't asking for Spotify to interpret their emotional state, they just want rather basic features to work. Obligatory “If I’d asked customers what they want, they would have told me a faster horse.” People may not realize the value of this new feature because they have not even imagined it.

What value does mining emotions provide for the customer?

A better tailored playlist

Re: Spotify patent would suggest songs based on users' emotions

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Post by [deleted] »

airstrike wrote: post #9
millstone wrote: post #7

Here is the referenced July paper [1]. Spotify has a very cool feature called Community [2] where users can talk about what they want Spotify to do. The most upvoted ideas are things like "change my username" or "filter explicit songs." My personal wishlist is a "don't play this song again" button [3] and native Homepod support [4]. The point is that users aren't asking for Spotify to interpret their emotional state,…

> The point is that users aren't asking for Spotify to interpret their emotional state, they just want rather basic features to work. Obligatory “If I’d asked customers what they want, they would have told me a faster horse.” People may not realize the value of this new feature because they have not even imagined it.

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Re: Spotify patent would suggest songs based on users' emotions

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Post by meekrohprocess »

spacephysics wrote: post #4
designatedtruth wrote: post #2

Future looks scary my friend.... future of tech is scary.

How do we make it less scary?

Give people more rights, and enforce violations. It won't happen, because the sort of rights that we need would obviate a huge swath of the economy.

But put simply, I think that we need to make it highly illegal to use information asymmetry to take advantage of people at a large scale.

People need legal protection against the natural "just make it work already" instinct that makes us blindly accept TOS terms and follow dark patterns. It would be laughable to argue that a significant portion of users actually understands what they are agreeing to.

Re: Spotify patent would suggest songs based on users' emotions

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Post by geofft »

redisman wrote: post #8
spacephysics wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do we make it less scary?

Smash all the computers? Unless you regulate very tightly what you can track about your users I don’t see any mechanism for companies to stop doing this kind of stuff as it is great business

The Luddites were right, and we tend to reject that conclusion today more because we have no idea what to do if it's true than because we really think it's false.

(The Luddites were also not blanket opposed to technology, just technology that for absolutely no good reason made their lives worse instead of better.)

Re: Spotify patent would suggest songs based on users' emotions

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Post by milofeynman »

millstone wrote: post #7

Here is the referenced July paper [1]. Spotify has a very cool feature called Community [2] where users can talk about what they want Spotify to do. The most upvoted ideas are things like "change my username" or "filter explicit songs." My personal wishlist is a "don't play this song again" button [3] and native Homepod support [4]. The point is that users aren't asking for Spotify to interpret their emotional state,…

I want private mode playlists. Playlists full of my kids songs that put the app in private mode so they don't mess up my suggestions.

Re: Spotify patent would suggest songs based on users' emotions

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Post by cellularmitosis »

redisman wrote: post #8
spacephysics wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do we make it less scary?

Smash all the computers? Unless you regulate very tightly what you can track about your users I don’t see any mechanism for companies to stop doing this kind of stuff as it is great business

Regulating covert access to the camera and microphone doesn't really strike me as "heavy regulation".

And before we smash all the computers, maybe we can start with something less drastic, like smashing publicly traded companies? I rarely see privately held "lifestyle businesses" getting into hot water over customer abuses.

Re: Spotify patent would suggest songs based on users' emotions

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Post by JohnJamesRambo »

spacephysics wrote: post #4
designatedtruth wrote: post #2

Future looks scary my friend.... future of tech is scary.

How do we make it less scary?

The same way we have curtailed corporations abusing humanity in the past, regulation and oversight.
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