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Re: GitHub Should Start an App Store

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Post by shakezula »

rightbyte wrote: post #133
whatshisface wrote: post #116

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It's repeated very often that companies maximize shareholder value, but that's not really true. Companies follow the personal interests of their management and employees, in proportion to their power within the institution, which sometimes involves shareholder value.

Ye. The belief in the "invisible hand" is strong. Boards and executives are not more rational than employees in general. Why would they not do things because they e.g. feel good about it or want revenge - like they were some super human well oiled machine.

In my personal and admittedly startup-prevalent experience with boards, I definitely think they operate more emotionally than most might think. Even companies I’ve worked with in the double to triple digit millions of worth function on far more emotional and interpersonal levels than most might think. Sure, money is the major motivator, but it’s all a machine driven by humans that are gut-based emotion bags.

Re: GitHub Should Start an App Store

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Post by danielovichdk »

syshum wrote: post #104
simias wrote: post #70

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>This is situational and opportunistic. It can change any day. In fact, managing an important app store is exactly one way to re-(un)-balance this relationship. I agree. Sorting huge, multinational, publicly traded companies in friends and enemies list is so obviously bogus and immature that it baffles me that this is so prevalent. Microsoft is not your enemy. It's not your friend (unless you're one of the shareholde…

This really is a generational divide, those of US that were around for the 90's and early 00's Microsoft crap still have a bad taste for the "new Microsoft" that claims to love FLOSS (while still showing many signs of EEE.. ) During that time Google was very friendly to FLOSS, and open protocols (remember when GChat was just a XMPP client) Today MS and Google seems to have flipped, Google now is fully embracing Embra…

Personally I do not look at companies for being nice, sweet, good to the world or whatever other bullshit any company will try to convince you to believe.

Do you really believe Microsoft is changing their tactics because they want to?

They needed to change.

Their goal which has always been Platform, around 12 years ago they realized it had to be open open towards everything else than Windows only. Otherwise they would be seriously under pressure.

Why do you think Azure is so popular with other platforms too, other than ms tech?

Microsoft is really really good at setting and reaching goals. They excel at it. And believe you me, that their goal is not to approve and support open source because they shifted their mindset towards it - it's because they had to - and they will make money doing it.

These statements about companies, being kind towards this or that, has to be read carefully. They are savages in the end and will do pretty much anything to win.

I worked at MS for many years. Not any longer.

Re: GitHub Should Start an App Store

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Post by ChuckMcM »

I don't disagree with the theory, but note that Microsoft already has a store. Perhaps the answer here is 'Microsoft should expand its store from just Windows to Windows and github stuff."

It will be interesting if a 'pay per use' model for software can emerge in the independent/casual source market.

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Post by jugg1es »

xenihn wrote: post #128
jugg1es wrote: post #118

I would support github creating a different entity that could act like an app store, but I do not think that github.com is best served by pivoting to anything other than what it does right now.

Why do people keep referring to Github as Github and not Microsoft when discussing business decisions? Github is not "backed" by Microsoft. Microsoft owns them. Github is Microsoft. This article is asking Microsoft to start an App Store, which they have already done. It's called Windows Phone Store. The article should be asking Microsoft to rebrand Windows Phone Store, not asking Github to make a new app store altoge…

Not sure what your point is. There is still a brand called GitHub. It's the same reason people call it YouTube instead of Google.

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Post by yepguy »

How about an app mall rather than an app store? Like F-Droid with multiple repositories (the "stores" in this metaphor), but also supporting authentication, paid apps, and store fronts to display recommendations and stuff.

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Post by throwaway3699 »

triceratops wrote: post #169
throwaway3699 wrote: post #163

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The populist right has been systemically purged from Twitter. It's not that Twitter is left wing but they ban right wing thought, leading it to be a slanted echo-chamber. Gab is definitely right wing Twitter. I've seen equally whacky things trending on the left side, e.g. "Russian Ads on Facebook won Trump the election".

> equally whacky things trending on the left side, e.g. "Russian Ads on Facebook won Trump the election". Why is that "whacky"? There were Russian ads.[1] They obviously intended to affect the election result (because why bother otherwise). Whether or not they were actually successful in affecting the election is unknowable. But it's not flat-earther-whacky to think they succeeded. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu…

The right is saying the same about election fraud. Neither have any basis in reality beyond circumstancial evidence. Neither should dominate the conversation so heavily and yet... here we are.

Both left and right have it's stupid moments, if you can't see that it's you with the bias, not me.

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