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Google union in turmoil following global alliance announcement

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Re: Google union in turmoil following global alliance announcement

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They don’t know what they are doing or what they want. Some of the main organizers are 1-2 years out of college and this is their first job. It’s really silly.

How does this being their first job out of college mean anything? Do you have to pass a certain threshold before you're allowed to unionize?

It tells you what kind of life experience they have to inform their decisions, including to unionize with a job like that to begin with. I think it speaks for itself.

Re: Google union in turmoil following global alliance announcement

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This seems... exaggerated and not particularly newsworthy, like the journalist's trying to make a big story out of something tiny: > In a statement, AWU executive council member Auni Ahsan said: “We want to honor the concerns that have been raised, but our primary focus as a union isn’t affiliation or disaffiliation.” > After the article came out, however, multiple AWU members told The Verge they were blindsided by t…

Exaggerated like a few hundred employees joining a union when the company employs over 100,000 people.

In the USA in a tech company its ground breaking

Re: Google union in turmoil following global alliance announcement

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The fall out between CWA and the employees was predictable, but faster than I would have guessed. I don’t understand why they teamed up with CWA in the first place. What possible alignment of incentives were they hoping for? What were they thinking?

Who else would they work with in the USA? - as far as I know the civil service unions in the USA don't have members in the private sector.

Re: Google union in turmoil following global alliance announcement

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They don’t know what they are doing or what they want. Some of the main organizers are 1-2 years out of college and this is their first job. It’s really silly.

How does this being their first job out of college mean anything? Do you have to pass a certain threshold before you're allowed to unionize?

Experience would help, especially when dealing with old, politically-connected organizations.

Going on their own would probably also be hard, since union laws in the US are complicated.

None of this stuff is taught in engineering courses in college. I think lack of real world experience is a pretty good explanation. Hopefully they can course correct before it snowballs. Finding a trustworthy old-hat union organizer or ten, and having them act as an advisor might help.

Re: Google union in turmoil following global alliance announcement

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This seems... exaggerated and not particularly newsworthy, like the journalist's trying to make a big story out of something tiny: > In a statement, AWU executive council member Auni Ahsan said: “We want to honor the concerns that have been raised, but our primary focus as a union isn’t affiliation or disaffiliation.” > After the article came out, however, multiple AWU members told The Verge they were blindsided by t…

Perhaps a professional national guild of communications workers should be held to a higher standard than “your standard communications mixups”.

Re: Google union in turmoil following global alliance announcement

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does this being their first job out of college mean anything? Do you have to pass a certain threshold before you're allowed to unionize?

It tells you what kind of life experience they have to inform their decisions, including to unionize with a job like that to begin with. I think it speaks for itself.

The Activists or the Fulltimers? :-)

Re: Google union in turmoil following global alliance announcement

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Keep in mind the very same people supported organizations like antifa and blm who killed or got killed a lot more than 5 people over the past few years...

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93% of Trump rallies were peaceful. Does that make Charlottesville or the Capitol riot ok because they were part of the 7%?

Re: Google union in turmoil following global alliance announcement

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Um this is the CWA i.e. local to the USA not the Global alliance which is UNI - the former President is Friend. Realistically AWU has to partner with another union initially standing up a brand new stand alone union with all the costs and difficulties is not practicable.

What kind of costs and difficulties? Filing paperwork isn't terribly expensive, and with an average member wage 5-10x higher than the median wage in the US the union should hit above its weight class.

A larger union is likely to bring its own set of office politics and costs.

Re: Google union in turmoil following global alliance announcement

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> So far, AWU has called on YouTube to permanently ban Donald Trump So one of the top priorities of the union is to push the company to cancel more freely, to shrink the overton window, to be more politically partisan and to conceal more from their customers for their own good. Of course they have every right to do so, but it doesn't give me confidence that this union will be a positive force.

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