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I agree. Joe Biden should be taken off the air for allowing 4000 Americans to die from COVID every day and countless others to be blown up by the military that he commands.
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#22The fall out between CWA and the employees was predictable, but faster than I would have guessed. I don’t understand why they teamed up with CWA in the first place. What possible alignment of incentives were they hoping for? What were they thinking?
They don’t know what they are doing or what they want. Some of the main organizers are 1-2 years out of college and this is their first job. It’s really silly.
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
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I agree. Joe Biden should be taken off the air for allowing 4000 Americans to die from COVID every day and countless others to be blown up by the military that he commands.
In seriousness, if we had this as a norm (and not just a bludgeon for whatever politician we don't like), we'd be in a better place as a society. Obama has admitted that he continued the drone strikes because he couldn't afford to look soft on terrorism as a Democrat, for instance. No law compelled him to, just the court of public opinion. How would we get to the point where, instead, he couldn't afford to look excited about bombing?
And, similarly, different countries have had wildly different rates of success at dealing with covid, but history will not remember Ardern or Phúc as a hero for the lives they saved, and it won't remember any national leader who didn't manage to do the same (Trump, Biden, or especially Löfven and Tegnell) as villains. It will remember Trump and Biden as leaders of a superpower, and it will remember, falsely, that covid surprised everyone and everyone dealt with it as best they could. Again, the incentives are bad. Why bother to try your hardest if people don't mind if you fail and you get some temporary popularity from saying "Everything is fine, go party"?
People respond to incentives, and this applies to everything from national politics to, oh, workplace politics. Remember that Twitter banned Trump because enough of their employees finally had enough (https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/16/how-twi...) more than any policy reason per se. Companies listen to unions when having the unionized employees present enough of an incentive for management to listen. Companies listen to non-unionized employees under the same conditions, too. A union just makes things more formal.
The fact that Biden did not feel compelled to suspend all military activity and lock down the country immediately upon assuming the presidency is certainly a failure of our society. If you want to say it's a personal failure, I (a Biden voter) will gladly join you. Let's just make sure we keep saying it for every president.
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#25> So far, AWU has called on YouTube to permanently ban Donald Trump So one of the top priorities of the union is to push the company to cancel more freely, to shrink the overton window, to be more politically partisan and to conceal more from their customers for their own good. Of course they have every right to do so, but it doesn't give me confidence that this union will be a positive force.
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Please stick to facts, not fan fiction.
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#26>Amr Gaber, a Google engineer who helped organize the 2018 walkout, told The New York Times that the union has been more concerned with claiming turf than listening to the needs of organizers.
I wonder how many people are using this news to say "See, I told you so"
I further wonder how many people are replying to them with some form of "That's a anti-union sterotype, you just don't understand unions."
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#28The fall out between CWA and the employees was predictable, but faster than I would have guessed. I don’t understand why they teamed up with CWA in the first place. What possible alignment of incentives were they hoping for? What were they thinking?
They don’t know what they are doing or what they want. Some of the main organizers are 1-2 years out of college and this is their first job. It’s really silly.
How does this being their first job out of college mean anything? Do you have to pass a certain threshold before you're allowed to unionize?
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Keep in mind the very same people supported organizations like antifa and blm who killed or got killed a lot more than 5 people over the past few years...
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Several hundred of them were not peaceful, and it doesn’t matter where you set the goal posts to get a denominator that allows you to say 93%.
You’re also wrong on that 100%.
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#30Um this is the CWA i.e. local to the USA not the Global alliance which is UNI - the former President is Friend.
Realistically AWU has to partner with another union initially standing up a brand new stand alone union with all the costs and difficulties is not practicable.