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India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by rishav_sharan »

middleclick wrote: post #25
0xFFFE wrote: post #7

There is always two sides to the story, here is a "protester" attacking a cop with a sword. They are coordinating attacks using whatsapp and other means. https://www.republicworld.com/india-news/law-and-order/singh...

Pasting a Republic link is incredibly disingenuous because they frequently peddle fake news, not to mention, are extremely biased towards the current government, so much that their main person had access to sensitive intelligence information. Search: "arnab leaked chats"

Republic is a hatemongering tabloid. Any comment citing it automatically loses all credence in my opinion. Might as use Kangana Ranaut tweets as citations as well.

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Post by windex »

lord_washington wrote: post #204
windex wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Modi is India's Trump I hear. Lot of similarities except for the genocide.

> Modi is India's Trump I hear. Except for the re-election.

True. The lack of education helps with the brainwashing.

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Post by rishav_sharan »

bharateeya wrote: post #80

BBC is heavily biased against India esp. against current government. It never publishes any good thing about india and belittles any progress made by India. It should appreciate that even passing the farm bill by the govt which is in majority, it is ready to negotiate. This is true democracy where just for the sake of 1-2 states, govt has put the reforms on hold. People should also understand that there is also forei…

>> BBC is heavily biased against India esp. against current government.

I don't buy this. I think BBC is far more factual and has a lot more integrity than most other media sources - unless being factual is what makes it against the current Indian regime.

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Post by eklavya »

rishav_sharan wrote: post #237
eklavya wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you sell in the old mandi system? Which had the monopoly until now.

How does a "system" get a monopoly? Genuinely asking as I didn't understand your point. A mandi, from what I understand is a large market of traders.

https://www.livemint.com/Opinion/MdPnXrH2B3H5lhD3O5I3bK/How-...

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Post by rishav_sharan »

ngc248 wrote: post #243
wolfretcrap wrote: post #81

Truth is somewhere in between: 1. It's true that media is controlled by Government now. It wasn't the case before this government came into action. 2. It's also true that existing power nexus like these farmer brokers who are spearheading the protest. You may ask where they get their money from go continue the protest? Basically from the existing network of exporters of fruits, vegetables, grains etc... These farmeri…

Dude, which media houses are controlled by the government? can we stop with this meme? NDTV, the times group all of the influential media houses oppose the government. So pray tell me which media exactly is controlled by the government?

When I think of media groups with anti-govt stand, NDTV and Telegraph are the only ones I can think of. Every one else seems to be part of the govt - media nexus or is central leaning.

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Post by rishav_sharan »

eklavya wrote: post #254
rishav_sharan wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does a "system" get a monopoly? Genuinely asking as I didn't understand your point. A mandi, from what I understand is a large market of traders.

https://www.livemint.com/Opinion/MdPnXrH2B3H5lhD3O5I3bK/How-...

Thanks. Much appreciated.

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Post by rishav_sharan »

eklavya wrote: post #250
rishav_sharan wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps religious terrorists or fascists, are better monikers for RSS than "Nazi" which is a way more loaded term.

Ok, how are they religious terrorists or fascists?

From RSSs role in the MK Gandhi's assassination, Gujrat's riots, to the Samjhauta Express bombings, Ajmer Dargah attacks, to the cow vigilatelism, beating up couples at valentine's day - the list is pretty long to consider RSS as Religious terrorists.

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Post by xrisk »

yinyang_in wrote: post #192
MichaelMoser123 wrote: post #173

> Agriculture employs about half of India's 1.3 billion population I am not familiar with politics in India, so my question is: how does the BJP manage to push laws that (seem to) adversly affect the interest of half of the population? Isn't that political suicide for the BJP?

Not BJP fanatic, but as I see these laws. These are pro-farmer and anti-madis laws. There was monopolies of mandis(farmer are restricted only to sell here) now government allows them to make contract or sell anywhere. I wrote posts on it : https://iamamitmurari.medium.com/farm-laws-farmer-issues-and...

> There was monopolies of mandis(farmer are restricted only to sell here) now government allows them to make contract or sell anywhere.

This is factually incorrect [1]. Only about 30% [2] of produce is sold in mandis.

Any anti-mandi law is essentially an anti-farmer law; because mandis act as a safety net for farmers. No farmer can negotiate good deals with big corp, and once the buyer side is monopolized (ala Jio); the farmer is forced into bad contracts. What the government should do is implement mandi reforms.

[1]: https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/opinion/can-free-trade-...

[2]: https://www.downtoearth.org.in/blog/agriculture/by-pushing-f...

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Post by eklavya »

rishav_sharan wrote: post #257
eklavya wrote: post #250

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, how are they religious terrorists or fascists?

From RSSs role in the MK Gandhi's assassination, Gujrat's riots, to the Samjhauta Express bombings, Ajmer Dargah attacks, to the cow vigilatelism, beating up couples at valentine's day - the list is pretty long to consider RSS as Religious terrorists.

Are you sure you are talking about RSS? Are you talking about shivsena, Bajrang dal, Hindu sena?

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Post by sifar »

quantgenius wrote: post #57
codesternews wrote: post #46

Sadly the Indian govt passed the laws without taking opposition and farmers in confidence. They passed the law very bluntly. Thats from where all this started. It's very simple thing to solve but current govt want to make it political. They are basically saying MSP(Minimum selling price) is not affected. But farmers protesting why you include this in bill. But because of govt ego millions of farmers are protesting fo…

The bill was public. It was debated for a while, and anyone could have read it during that period if they chose to. There was none of the here is a 5000 page bill and you must pass it in 2 hours or the economy goes under like happens in the US Congress. They not only took the farmers into confidence, they took the opinions of the farmers into consideration and amended the bill. Each individual substantive line item b…

>> The bill literally cannot harm any actual farmer.

That is a very bold claim. How would one prove it.

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