When will the people have enough? When will the politicians hang?
You want to kill people for a tiny bit of budget waste? Companies waste money all the time.
CDC website built by Deloitte at a cost of $44M is abandoned due to bugs
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Re: CDC website built by Deloitte at a cost of $44M is abandoned due to bugs
#12Re: CDC website built by Deloitte at a cost of $44M is abandoned due to bugs
#13I just don't understand these software deals, the price is so high. At 44 million, you can hire 146 engineers each paid 300k for a full year. Trust me, you need much less to build something like this, and there's no excuse for it to suck so bad.
I'm also curious, anyone know where the development actually happened? Did Deloitte further subcontracted out? Was it outsourced?
Re: CDC website built by Deloitte at a cost of $44M is abandoned due to bugs
#14When will the people have enough? When will the politicians hang?
> When will the politicians hang?
What an appalling sentiment.
Re: CDC website built by Deloitte at a cost of $44M is abandoned due to bugs
#15Is that a lot for a website?
I made about a dozen websites in the late 90s and early aughts... most I ever made at it was 50k/y. OTOH, they worked and continued to work long past my involvement. Maybe it's a fair price for a shoddy website?
Re: CDC website built by Deloitte at a cost of $44M is abandoned due to bugs
#16I just don't understand these software deals, the price is so high. At 44 million, you can hire 146 engineers each paid 300k for a full year. Trust me, you need much less to build something like this, and there's no excuse for it to suck so bad. I'm also curious, anyone know where the development actually happened? Did Deloitte further subcontracted out? Was it outsourced?
I have no doubt the government got scammed, but often these estimates provision for things like ensuring phone support is available any time the website is up for accessibility requirements.
That's also why you see some government sites operate on a 9-5 basis
Re: CDC website built by Deloitte at a cost of $44M is abandoned due to bugs
#17I have worked with Deloitte on two projects (on clients' side, I would never willingly work for Deloitte). Generally expect them to do absolute minimum necessary to meet the contract. The code was obfuscated to ensure support contract. The people employed to write it were not interested in the quality in the slightest but were interested a lot in specifics of the contract.
Re: CDC website built by Deloitte at a cost of $44M is abandoned due to bugs
#18> Why was Deloitte awarded the project on a no-bid basis? The contracts claim the company was the only “responsible source”[1] to build the tool. [1]: https://www.acquisition.gov/far/6.302-1
Usually government agencies write the contracts in a way that prevents other parties from bidding to streamline the procurement process.
Now what I don't understand, is why wasn't the contract written so the state could refuse broken software, or to get a partial refund if it's doesn't meet the specifications.
Someone got wined and dined pretty well. And government needs better lawyers when dealing with private contractors.
Re: CDC website built by Deloitte at a cost of $44M is abandoned due to bugs
#19When will the people have enough? When will the politicians hang?
> When will the politicians hang? What an appalling sentiment.
Why can't we speak figuratively anymore?
Why is Deloitte getting all the blame here? Why is the government not responsible for this fiasco? They know very well what Deloitte is and what their track record is.
Re: CDC website built by Deloitte at a cost of $44M is abandoned due to bugs
#20I just don't understand these software deals, the price is so high. At 44 million, you can hire 146 engineers each paid 300k for a full year. Trust me, you need much less to build something like this, and there's no excuse for it to suck so bad. I'm also curious, anyone know where the development actually happened? Did Deloitte further subcontracted out? Was it outsourced?
> I just don't understand these software deals, the price is so high.
Don't contractors do everything they can to milk government contracts as much as possible? I'm pretty sure I've even seen people provide advice on how to do this effectively right here on HN. So I can definitely understand how it happens...