Why use zerotier if you are already using ssh keys? It wouldn't add any security, and in this setup the servers all have public IP's, right?
Docker, Django, Traefik, and IntercoolerJS: My go-to stack for building a SaaS
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Re: Docker, Django, Traefik, and IntercoolerJS: My go-to stack for building a SaaS
#12Why use zerotier if you are already using ssh keys? It wouldn't add any security, and in this setup the servers all have public IP's, right?
Good question. I ship logs and metrics back to my home server that runs grafana and loki. I also run some proxies to machines in other places.
Re: Docker, Django, Traefik, and IntercoolerJS: My go-to stack for building a SaaS
#13Goto stack for building SaaS is the one you know the best.
You’ve just dismissed the entire article and it’s details by adding nothing useful to discussion. By your logic, let’s all dismiss HN - the best knowledge is what you already have.
Re: Docker, Django, Traefik, and IntercoolerJS: My go-to stack for building a SaaS
#14He says "docker, just plain docker" but in reality uses docker-compose - in my view a significant addition.
However it aligns well with my own sentiments - for anything below large scale complexity or scalability needs, docker-compose hits a beautiful simplicity vs power tradeoff.
Re: Docker, Django, Traefik, and IntercoolerJS: My go-to stack for building a SaaS
#15Goto stack for building SaaS is the one you know the best.
You’ve just dismissed the entire article and it’s details by adding nothing useful to discussion. By your logic, let’s all dismiss HN - the best knowledge is what you already have.
I did not dismiss the article, I've read it. I just replied to the pretty strong statement that his choice is a "go-to" stack for building SaaS.
Re: Docker, Django, Traefik, and IntercoolerJS: My go-to stack for building a SaaS
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
A dedicated server at hetzner is about 30-35 dollars / month. That will get you a ryzen5/64 gigs/512 RAID-1 NVME on linux. Heroku at that spec really starts to hit the wallet. More than engouh for a lot of applications. Hell, I ran a E-commerce company with 20MM USD/year in sales on a dedicated server from 2005-2013. Most things are plain vanilla and rock stable. I can go from new server to running my first services…
Are you based in the US? I see Hetzner mentioned often due to their great value, but given their EU location I’d imagine the latency isn’t ideal. I’m curious what your experience is. When I’m looking for a cheap dedi box I use OVH or one of their related companies since they have Canada DCs which are closer. Obviously if you are in the EU, Hetzner and scaleway are a great option.
I'm from the US and my personal website has been hosted through hetzner for 3+ years. From the US, I typically got around 120-130ms ping before I put it behind cloudflare.
It wasn't really an issue.
Re: Docker, Django, Traefik, and IntercoolerJS: My go-to stack for building a SaaS
#17Why use zerotier if you are already using ssh keys? It wouldn't add any security, and in this setup the servers all have public IP's, right?
The way I see it, there's a level of complexity above which SSH becomes too painful to administer. So now what? Well, unless you find something inbetween you are up for setting up a full VPN and managing the complexity and security of that. And if your network needs are quite fluid, that itself is going to be a pain. Zerotier to me looks like that "something inbetween". But I'd be interested in Sam's comments.
Re: Docker, Django, Traefik, and IntercoolerJS: My go-to stack for building a SaaS
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
You’ve just dismissed the entire article and it’s details by adding nothing useful to discussion. By your logic, let’s all dismiss HN - the best knowledge is what you already have.
I did not dismiss the article, I've read it. I just replied to the pretty strong statement that his choice is a "go-to" stack for building SaaS.
I’m sure you have. I think we want to discuss the details or something to bite on than a knee jerk reaction.
I kind of agree with you - build with whatever tools you have. But, we also want to be curious and open minded of other tools that exist.
Sorry for my harsh reply.
Re: Docker, Django, Traefik, and IntercoolerJS: My go-to stack for building a SaaS
#19He says "docker, just plain docker" but in reality uses docker-compose - in my view a significant addition. However it aligns well with my own sentiments - for anything below large scale complexity or scalability needs, docker-compose hits a beautiful simplicity vs power tradeoff.
I disagree, docker-compose is just a wrapper around docker. It is in fact just a python package.
The daemon itself is just plain docker.
Re: Docker, Django, Traefik, and IntercoolerJS: My go-to stack for building a SaaS
#20He says "docker, just plain docker" but in reality uses docker-compose - in my view a significant addition. However it aligns well with my own sentiments - for anything below large scale complexity or scalability needs, docker-compose hits a beautiful simplicity vs power tradeoff.
Also, does this becoming accepted bother anyone else?
"curl -s https://get.docker.com | sudo bash"